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My stock 87 442 build

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My stock 87 442 build

Postby ERIC87442 on Sun Nov 06, 2011 3:39 pm

Well i finaly paid my engine off and got it back from the machine shop. Put the heads and valve train back on masked it all off and painted it. Slowly getting it back together. Aiming to finish by summer. Still got to buy the stock exhaust set up and a few things to complete my engine. Such as the air tubes and heatriser thing. Going to get the transmission rebuilt sometime in the next few months. Once i get it all together next summer im going to get the ac retrofitted. Pictures will be coming soon.

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Re: My stock 87 442 build

Postby Minion1186 on Sun Nov 06, 2011 11:13 pm

sounds good, cant wait for the pics.

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Re: My stock 87 442 build

Postby ERIC87442 on Thu Feb 16, 2012 12:53 am

i started this thread and havent done much with it lately, mainly because i havent done much with the car, not much farther than i was before, everything is on the engine and about ready to go back in, my aim for getting it done this summer doesnt look to be possible, might be close. i plan on dropping the engine back in in a few weeks so thats a step forward. i ordered my parts air pump/air check valves/ spark plugs. i need new bearings in my alternator and thats about it engine wise, i decided against the stock exhaust set up right now to save money and get it on the road quicker so i will run what its got. also decided against the heat riser for now too until i do the stock exhaust set up. so basically all thats left is rebuild the transmission and put that in as well. finances are the biggest set back in this build... :roll:

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Re: My stock 87 442 build

Postby Intragration on Thu Feb 16, 2012 2:58 am

Don't let it get you down, sometimes it's hard to get things going as quickly as you'd like. At the same time, and it sounds like you understand this, sometimes a couple compromises are the difference between driving and enjoying your car, and having it sit in pieces for another year. What's up with the trans? Is it shot, or you just want it fresh for the motor? If the car's only got 48k miles and you weren't having problems with the trans before, you might be ok to run it for a while. Just a thought.
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Re: My stock 87 442 build

Postby ERIC87442 on Thu Feb 16, 2012 1:24 pm

Kind of want it fresh since its out. Wouldnt hurt. Its been sitting for 13 years and a guy owe me 2 trans rebuilds for the price of parts

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Re: My stock 87 442 build

Postby ERIC87442 on Mon Mar 05, 2012 9:55 pm

pulled it out October 31, 2010 finally got it back in today, the bottom picture is when i took it out with my rough looking engine hoist and chain haha, put it back in with the same thing, i kept worrying i that chain or one of the bolts were going to break. it started out as i was going to just set it back in today but i got carried away and hooked everything up, all i need to do is get some heater hoses, a pcv hose, hook the starter and exhaust up put the transmission back in and put a battery in it and its ready to go, i decided against rebuilding the transmission since it worked when i pulled it, ill get it rebuilt when it goes out. i bought a new battery before i pulled the engine, the battery sat in my basement one year and in the garage the next half, hopefully its still good :lol: i thought i took enough pictures of the hoses and wiring but i was wrong that took me a few hours to remember where everything went. hoses not to bad since i had a diagram. wires were a bit tricky though. im pretty excited to get it back on the road this spring. im not done with it yet though, just want to drive it again :D future plans are to retrofit the ac, get the stock exhaust set up, heat riser, and rebuild the transmission eventually. i noticed today that my ac compressor said on the side of it that it was r12 and r134a capable so thats one less thing i need. it worked some what before i pulled the engine, it was still r12 it was leaking where the lines connect to the compressor so when you came to a stop and idled the ac would quit working but would start working again as soon as you took off. this is where im at now, once the snow and roads clear im going to pull it to my work so i can put it on the hoist to do the transmission
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Re: My stock 87 442 build

Postby ERIC87442 on Sat Mar 10, 2012 8:33 am

I was towing it by tow strap behind my tahoe with a friend yesterday to my work where i can put it on the lift. towing a vehical by tow strap is illegal here. the third corner we make we meet head to head with a cop and he starts driving by, i think "great now im going to get a ticket for this, no lights, no registration, no seat belt im screwed." he slows down as he gets by the car, sees the tow strap then looks at me, and gives me a thumbs up and keeps on driving! i was very surprised. its nice to see someone respect the 442

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Re: My stock 87 442 build

Postby ZZ4CutlaSS on Sat Mar 10, 2012 9:12 am

ERIC87442 wrote:I was towing it by tow strap behind my tahoe with a friend yesterday to my work where i can put it on the lift. towing a vehical by tow strap is illegal here. the third corner we make we meet head to head with a cop and he starts driving by, i think "great now im going to get a ticket for this, no lights, no registration, no seat belt im screwed." he slows down as he gets by the car, sees the tow strap then looks at me, and gives me a thumbs up and keeps on driving! i was very surprised. its nice to see someone respect the 442

Cool story man! A few summers ago in my old 87' 442 I was trying to show off to some friends. So i took off fast and
fishtailed around a corner with the tries smoking and when I finished making the corner I was heading towards a local cop. He waived and smiled at me and I swear my heart was beating a 100 miles an hours. My friends couldbelievee wedidn'tt get pulled over.
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Re: My stock 87 442 build

Postby Intragration on Sat Mar 10, 2012 5:05 pm

That's a great story. Some cops are so ridiculous, the Colonel Flagg types. Makes me happy to hear there are some that are regular guys.
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Re: My stock 87 442 build

Postby ERIC87442 on Sat Mar 10, 2012 11:14 pm

well i got it all together and running tonight. runs great, 2 problems though, check engine light setting code 34 for the map sensor. everything is hooked up and fine with the map sensor, so bad sensor? and the other problem is i have a very loud exhaust manifold leak from both manifolds they are both cast manifolds and i installed the gaskets and torqued the bolts to the proper specs. and suggestions?

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Re: My stock 87 442 build

Postby ERIC87442 on Sat Mar 10, 2012 11:49 pm

Im dumb the exhaust is probably the air pipes leaking... but still the map sensor thing. Any ideas?

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Re: My stock 87 442 build

Postby Minion1186 on Sun Mar 11, 2012 1:02 am

I'm glad someone else is keeping these cars stock looking. I have an 85 442 and I'm looking to have a stock/original appearing engine/bay while also adding what I can to improve what should be without anyone noticing.

Maybe I missed it in one of your posts, but what was done to the engine? stock rebuild?

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Re: My stock 87 442 build

Postby ERIC87442 on Sun Mar 11, 2012 8:43 am

Yeah its a stock build. Motors bored .060 over and a little head work. I was replacing the rear seal on the trans and cracked the tail....put thenew seal in put some gray rtv down and jb weldedthe chunk of the houseing back on and its working so far

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Re: My stock 87 442 build

Postby dogshit on Sun Mar 11, 2012 11:03 am

I always keep them stockish appearing but could never be satisfied with the 307 in a 442. If I did keep the vin9 in the car I would have to port the hell out of the heads cam it up and get headers. Getting left at the lights by a fwd 4 cylinder economy car would be too much to take for me. Not that you will just saying. Hey IF and its worth trying you can locate some reasonably, keep the r-12. It is more efficient and will cool better even if its one hundred millionth of a percent less environmentally friendly.
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Re: My stock 87 442 build

Postby ERIC87442 on Fri Jun 01, 2012 11:18 pm

its been a while since i posted anything on my thread here. the vin9 307 is pretty darn disappointing power wise haha but at least its original-ish. i did locate some r-12 two people in town i know of have some, but i havent asked them a price yet but im pretty sure its not too cheap. i fixed my exhaust leak, it was the manifolds leaking off the heads, i removed the gaskets and orange hi temp rtv gasketed it and put them back on and the leak was gone. i just fixed my multifunction stick so now my cruise works fully but i still have a few things to do, my rear trans seal is still leaking slightly (amazingly not from where it broke and was jb welded together) i think i may just get it rebuilt this winter thought. the power antenna broke so thats a new project... i ordered oem replica floor mats that are on the way here. it needs an alignment badly, i want to get the original tire size on it and i thought about getting some lowering springs to lower it about an inch, but then that kind of takes away from the stock theme i am going for... i want to do the original exhaust set up but i like the way it sounds now. a/c is still on the list. and now i have a blend door issue for the bi level. the vacuum is getting to the system and the lines look ok so i think a door is just stuck all i have is vent and heat to the floor. i thought about repainting the gold on the inside of the rear rims since they are kind of wearing off, has anyone done that before or know of where i can find paint that would match? also i have been thinking long and hard about finding another lightning rod set up... any opinions on that?

i clean the thing every time i take it out and i keep noticing blemishes in my paint and its bothering me :lol: maybe i got to stop cleaning it so much. well heres a few pictures as it sits, it looks great i think and it drives great but its going to go back into torn apart in my garage this winter though i think.
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