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Proper tire size & look for '87 Salon

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Proper tire size & look for '87 Salon

Postby mfpeters on Thu Mar 31, 2011 10:06 am

Hi...new member, joined last month. I recently purchased a 1987 Salon with only 20K miles. The car has the stock rally 14" rims with white wall tires. I want to replace the white walls with white lettered tires and give the car a sportier look. Probably go with BFG's. I have researched the forum threads, regarding tire size, but did not find the answer I'm looking for. Question: what size are owners running with stock 14 rally rims? Factory size would be 205/70, but I'm looking for something to make the wheel wells at little fuller and the car sit a little higher. Thinking about a 215/70....slightly higher & wider than the 205/70. Or...should I just stick with the 205/70's..?? Looking for any comments, suggestions, advice. Attached is a picture of the car for reference. Thanks, Mike
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Re: Proper tire size & look for '87 Salon

Postby RockSS on Thu Mar 31, 2011 10:19 am

I did a little looking around .. I know you said bigger as in wider and taller but BFG and Cooper, Firestone all make a 235/60-14 thats a bit wider and almost the same height so your speedo would still be correct ... :D
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Re: Proper tire size & look for '87 Salon

Postby FE3X CLONE on Thu Mar 31, 2011 11:45 am

The widest you can go is a 245/60R14. I had them on my '87 for years.

The 235 would probably fit a little better without bulging as much as the 245's but I never had a problem with them.
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Re: Proper tire size & look for '87 Salon

Postby Oldsmoletick on Thu Mar 31, 2011 11:47 am

215 70 Looks decent on a 14" wheel, nice amount of sidewall and helps fill the well.
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Re: Proper tire size & look for '87 Salon

Postby snotrocket71 on Thu Mar 31, 2011 12:23 pm

wouldnt a 235-60-14 or a 245-60-14 be too big for the stock 6" wheel? i ran 225-60-14 BFG's all around on my 87 salon and it looked good, gave it a lower leaner look. its a short tire but has a wide foot print. just going by how mine wore id say i wouldnt go bigger than a 225 on it, unless it was a 7" rim then a 235 or 245 would fit pretty nice. id say go with the 215-70-14, they'll wear nice and wont be bulging, easy to get and are a good fit
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Re: Proper tire size & look for '87 Salon

Postby mfpeters on Thu Mar 31, 2011 2:55 pm

thanks for all the responses. seems like the 215/70 is an ok/proper choice for a 6" wide rim. agree.....the 235 or 245 will probably have a "bulge".

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Re: Proper tire size & look for '87 Salon

Postby -83MONTESS- on Thu Mar 31, 2011 7:46 pm

If your going for a sportier look I would suggest a wider tire out back.
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Re: Proper tire size & look for '87 Salon

Postby FE3X CLONE on Thu Mar 31, 2011 9:07 pm

245's bulge but I don't think it looks that bad. It's about the only way to get a "muscular" look with the small factory rims.

This was my car back around 1996 when I just put the 245/60R14's on:

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I had those Goodyears for at least 4 years or so and then had to go to BF Goodrich Radial T/A's when the Goodyear's were discontinued. :( I HATE radial T/A's! The Goodyears were a night and day better tire, both in performance and looks.

Picture with the T/A's:

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And yes, "technically" the 245 tire isn't listed as fitting but they work just fine.
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Re: Proper tire size & look for '87 Salon

Postby snotrocket71 on Thu Mar 31, 2011 9:13 pm

FE3X CLONE wrote:245's bulge but I don't think it looks that bad. It's about the only way to get a "muscular" look with the small factory rims.

This was my car back around 1996 when I just put the 245/60R14's on:

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I had those Goodyears for at least 4 years or so and then had to go to BF Goodrich Radial T/A's when the Goodyear's were discontinued. :( I HATE radial T/A's! The Goodyears were a night and day better tire, both in performance and looks.

Picture with the T/A's:

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And yes, "technically" the 245 tire isn't listed as fitting but they work just fine.


WOW your car looks great with those tires, i still cant believe you put them on a 6" rim! :shock: i've had radial t/a's on all my cars and loved them, but i you could argue that i dont know any better. now that i have 15's i wont really need to worry about that, im hell bent on 235's all around
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Postby -83MONTESS- on Thu Mar 31, 2011 9:43 pm

I like the stance of that but I love my radial T/A's!
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Re: Proper tire size & look for '87 Salon

Postby dogshit on Thu Mar 31, 2011 11:49 pm

Nothing gives a better musclecar look then the 245/60s on those rims IMO. The 25.6" tall almost perfectly matches the factory original tire height of 25.5" so your speedometer and odometer stay correct. Yes you have to watch tire inflation pressure so that they wear nicely but thats not too tough. If you want a taller tire the 215/70 or 225/70 work but serve to make the already too tall gearing.worse ie making acceleration even slower.
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Re: Proper tire size & look for '87 Salon

Postby snotrocket71 on Fri Apr 01, 2011 6:56 pm

yeah, definetly true on the tall tire/gearing bit. it also may depend on what the purpose of the car will be; hot rod, show car, daily driver etc. theoretically wouldnt you get better mileage with the narrow tall tire? less rolling resistance? if youre trying to squeeze the balls off of the thing for DD mileage then that MAY be something to consider. doesnt handling also take a hit from a wide tire on a 6" rim?
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Re: Proper tire size & look for '87 Salon

Postby FE3X CLONE on Fri Apr 01, 2011 7:48 pm

snotrocket71 wrote:doesnt handling also take a hit from a wide tire on a 6" rim?


It's supposed to but if you look at it this way, your going from a 215/70 that has a section width that is 8.5" wide to a 245 which is 9.6" wide. In my experience the wider tire made up for any handling issue from the wider tire.
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Re: Proper tire size & look for '87 Salon

Postby snotrocket71 on Sat Apr 02, 2011 4:05 pm

FE3X CLONE wrote:
snotrocket71 wrote:doesnt handling also take a hit from a wide tire on a 6" rim?


It's supposed to but if you look at it this way, your going from a 215/70 that has a section width that is 8.5" wide to a 245 which is 9.6" wide. In my experience the wider tire made up for any handling issue from the wider tire.

i cant argue that, it looks awesome so i'm sold on that point alone. if i was keeping my 14x6's i'd definetly have that combo, thankfully i got a steal on nice chrome 15x7 rallyes
mfpeters, you decide on what youre gonna run? i'm curious to see how it looks
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Re: Proper tire size & look for '87 Salon

Postby mfpeters on Fri Apr 08, 2011 10:09 am

Thanks again for all who responded. I'm going with the BFG's 215/70/14. Tires are on order. I'll post a pic after install for any future tire size reference/inquiries.

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