1985 442 lowering rear height

[pontiacgp]

On an 85-87 442, I'd just adjust the air pressure in the shocks to get the right height....

 

[pontiacgp]

here's my covid painted GP with the 5409 springs. I would like to get the GP a little lower in the rear but I like the spring rate of the 5409 over the 5413. The 5413 didn't drop the GP as much as the 5409 but I never left the 5413 in the GP long enough for the spring to settle. One other detail is I have an 8.2" rear end so the axle tubes are larger then the axles tubs on a 7.5" so that affects the height. I could put the 5659 springs back in which I have cut to lower the GP but those spring have a 5" diameter which means the airbags I would use to support the rear if the GP is loaded down do not fit.

 

[64nailhead]

here's my covid painted GP with the 5409 springs. I would like to get the GP a little lower in the rear but I like the spring rate of the 5409 over the 5413. The 5413 didn't drop the GP as much as the 5409 but I never left the 5413 in the GP long enough for the spring to settle. One other detail is I have an 8.2" rear end so the axle tubes are larger then the axles tubs on a 7.5" so that affects the height. I could put the 5659 springs back in which I have cut to lower the GP but those spring have a 5" diameter which means the airbags I would use to support the rear if the GP is loaded down do not fit.

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Why did you like the spring rate better? Stiffer, softer, or what?

Perhaps some photos of both springs loaded and unloaded - any 300-400lb fat guys that can sit in the trunk on command?

 

[86CUT]

A friend gave me some stock springs from a gbody wagon and DAMN it sits way to high going to get a different spring as well cause its just way too high.
He changed to a differnt moog spring and got another 2 inch drop out of them compared to the wagon springs.

 

[403Olds]

here's my covid painted GP with the 5409 springs. I would like to get the GP a little lower in the rear but I like the spring rate of the 5409 over the 5413. The 5413 didn't drop the GP as much as the 5409 but I never left the 5413 in the GP long enough for the spring to settle. One other detail is I have an 8.2" rear end so the axle tubes are larger then the axles tubs on a 7.5" so that affects the height. I could put the 5659 springs back in which I have cut to lower the GP but those spring have a 5" diameter which means the airbags I would use to support the rear if the GP is loaded down do not fit.

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How much more did the 5409 drop the rear over the 5413?

 

[Macguyver]

MOOG 5401

 

[64nailhead]

How much more did the 5409 drop the rear over the 5413?

I just installed a set of 5409 and it dropped the rear about 1.5". I had an antique set of springs in it, but it got raised when I put the Expoloder rear in it so I can't really say how much it changed from the original rear.

MOOG 5401

Is this lower than the 5409? How's the spring ratecompared to the 5409?

 

[Macguyver]

I just installed a set of 5409 and it dropped the rear about 1.5". I had an antique set of springs in it, but it got raised when I put the Expoloder rear in it so I can't really say how much it changed from the original rear.


Is this lower than the 5409? How's the spring ratecompared to the 5409?

Yes, lower than the 5409.

moog-5409	Pigtail	Pigtail	13.44​	7.5​	5.52​	0.55​	143​	847​	Constant Rate
moog-5401	Pigtail	Pigtail	13.15​	7.5​	5.58​	0.53​	129​	727​	Constant Rate

 

[motorheadmike]

I used Moog 5659s with a coil cut out in my old Buick:

Bar Diameter - Inches	0.50
End Type 1	Square
End Type 2	Pigtail
Free Height - Inches	13.68
ID - Inches	4.30
Installation Height - Inches	10.00
Load - lbs	576.00
Spring Rate - lbs per inch	162.00
Spring Type	Constant Rate

With a full coil cut out the rate jumps north of 180lb/in if I recall correctly.

 

[81cutlass]

Bah so many options.