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Maybe I'm crazy but you put Ed and Aaron Kauffman on a show together you would really have something.

Chip Foose is probably not as busy these days, either. Maybe the three of them can put on a "no Fake Drama" car show.
 
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Chip Foose is probably not as busy these days, either. Maybe the three of them can put on a "no Fake Drama" car show.


Believe it or not I have a coworker that is friends with Foose.

You should see all the complaints he get from people complaining about the work that is done on the show.

Foose keeps everyone in a binder and on display.

Come on people he got your car back on the road for FREE!!!!!!

I like Garage Squad somewhat probably because they did a couple of G-Body's

The car no show will dare touch!!!!

well *ss monkey did 2 so............
 

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I think if anything is real it turns to unreal as soon as a camera shows up
 
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Speaking of Foose, I just got back from the Dallas Auto Show. Chip appears to have a deal with Capital One (what's in your wallet?) so he isn't hurting for money. AJ from Overhauling was signing autographs and they had his unbelievable Hemisfear on display that shows the talent the guy has.


Instead of making 50 I think they made only 5. These will be $1M cars in the future if they aren't already.
 
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Pinks (the original not all out) is where a lot of the ideas for "fake drama" drag races in reality TV come from. It's like Discovery Studios puts on a few hours of "Pinks for its Interns and says "THIS! is what these schlubs like! When you run out of ideas recreate THIS!"


Your a schlub.
 
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Your a schlub.

We are all schlubs in the eye's of Discovery Networks producers. There are/were car guys at the top of discovery networks - The founder was a huge buyer at Barrett-Jackson, but nobody they hire in the production of their shows is a car person. Not one. They are big city mass marketing grads for California or the east coast and they try to recreate reality with non actors...which is hard to pull off, so they use "fake drama" to fill time.

Its a lot easier to get non actors throwing tools and stomping off (everybody can do anger on camera especially if they can bleep your entire rant) than it is to show someone butt welding a sheetmetal panel or painting a rollcage.
 
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regarding Pinks when they ran that show at a drag strip in my area the cops were sitting on the road leading to the drag strip and yanking cars off the road that were headed to the race. It's not that the cars were not safe but were illegal for the road, guys were pulling up with their trailers, unloaded their car and then tried to drive them the last block to the race. You think the cops would give a little leeway since the cars were only headed to the show and were not street cars
 
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I can't say I'm shocked that Edd is calling it quits. Just look at the progression of the show and you could see that it had to end somewhere. Early episodes had something like a 1000 quid budget and usually only made a small profit if you consider the labor free. That was easily relatable for most guys like us. Now they but GTOs for $20K, bolt on some incorrect aftermarket parts, then sell them for $50K.
The reality formula is set and rarely deviates; A couple guys in a small shop on a small scale eventually ends up corporate clowns selling T-shirts and stickers then implode.
The "tech" shows often squeeze out most of the tech in favor of product placement or even blatant infomercial format with a sprinkling of actual how-to. I work on cars for a living, so obviously a show about replacing brakes and intake gaskets isn't too stimulating. I understand that there needs to be some comedic element and some new product introduction to keep from boring the audience and since the audience is pretty broad, they kind of need to appeal to everyone. I kind of like the Car Fix guys. Graveyard cars has a lot of historic type info but Worman's personality is an acquired taste. Do a little research on the concept of the show before Velocity picked it up and it will make more sense.
Hands down the most painfully forced and staged show I can remember was Extreme Auto Hunters. The worst!
The truth is, I'm guilty of watching a lot of car shows, so I guess I'm probably part of the problem. Well, I guess more accurately, the shows are on my TV while I'm mostly paying attention to my laptop -- background noise. Still, it's hard not to be insulted by all the fabricated drama and non-problems along with the frequent technical misinformation. Yesterday I had How Its Made; Dream Cars on and the narrator was pointing out how most cars have the engine installed vertically but this car (forget what it was) has the engine installed horizontally. Pretty sure he meant longitudinally and transverse.



Foose sidenote; My normally shy 17 year old daughter spotted him in the airport around Christmas time and approached him. She said he was very nice and actually seemed to have a genuine interest in the cars she had been involved in. I thought that was pretty cool given that he was traveling during the holidays and could have easily just brushed her off.
 
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