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L92 OLDS

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I've seen many swaps and so many have been done that I figured it would be a budget friendly task..i could've done the usual 350 drop in but I wanted the old car but modern feel..do you suggest anything better I'm still researching so I'm open to suggestions


I'm just trying to point out that the LS1....(1 being the active character) is one of MANY LS engines and may not be the best choice. There are much better LS engines than the LS1 to choose from. LY6 as an example. If budget is a concern then an LM7 is a great choice. You can find them everywhere.

Read this...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LS_based_GM_small-block_engine
 
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I'm just trying to point out that the LS1....(1 being the active character) is one of MANY LS engines and may not be the best choice. There are much better LS engines than the LS1 to choose from. LY6 as an example. If budget is a concern then an LM7 is a great choice. You can find them everywhere.

Read this...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LS_based_GM_small-block_engine
thank you that's why I joined the forum to get as much info as possible before I made mistakes...ill do more research on the two you suggested.
 

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I'd go with a Gen IV 4.8L.
 

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thank you that's why I joined the forum to get as much info as possible before I made mistakes...ill do more research on the two you suggested.
Just fyi...the LM7 should be pretty plentiful anywhere. It's the 5.3 donned in millions of silverado's, sierras, suburbans, etc. That's actually what I'm working on...plus a bunch of parts picked from a suburban.
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Just fyi...the LM7 should be pretty plentiful anywhere. It's the 5.3 donned in millions of silverado's, sierras, suburbans, etc. That's actually what I'm working on...plus a bunch of parts picked from a suburban. View attachment 69010
I realized that I did refer the ls engine to the ls1.. everyone does put the ls1 in all ls categories my bad lol..the lm7 has been the engine that i have been seeing..im just looking for something simple and you guys have helped me out a lot.. the car is pretty much going to stay original since its so clean. I just wanted a little more umph under the hood..im going back factory silver on the car with 20x8 front and 20x11 us mag wheels..
 

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Probably the most economic way to do the swap is with a truck engine (iron block). As stated, the LM7 5.3 is a good candidate. They are plentiful so they are cheap. One thing to watch out for is if the engine is GEN III like an LM7 (5.3) or an LQ4 (6.0) or if it is a GEN IV like an LMG (5.3) or an L96 (6.0). The GEN IV motors have a different reluctor ring on the crank than the GEN III motors. The GEN IV motors have drive by wire throttle bodies. If you want a drive by cable throttle body, then stick with a GEN III motor. Even late GEN III motors are drive by wire. I think 2003 1/2 ton trucks are drive by wire, for example.

If you can find one, a takeout engine with all the accessories, the PCM, wiring harness and transmission, that is likely the most economic route. If you go with a GEN IV engine, you will need to get the accelerator pedal as well from the donor vehicle. An LQ4/LQ9 and 4L80E would be the ideal find. That combo is sought after so it will cost more than an LM7/4L65E. The 5.3 with a cam, headers and tune makes plenty of power. I have that setup in my daily driven 2008 Sierra.

The truck front accessory drive, oil pan and intake manifold can be problematic with fitting our chassis depending on what mounts are used. There is a company making brackets to relocate the truck accessories to package them to fit the car chassis better. This is likely the best route to go with for your front accessory drive. Most people just swap the truck oil pan because it hangs so low. The GM "muscle car" oil pan (Hummer H5 pan) is a popular choice. Holley makes an entire swap system for the G Body with accessory brackets, mounts, headers, trans crossmember and oil pan. It is a really nice engineered solution but it is not cheap. Depending on what mounts you use, the truck intake manifold can be problematic on hood clearance but there are plenty of people running them in these cars. The truck intake is ugly in my opinion but its long runners make good low end torque.

Are you good with an automatic transmission or do you want a stick? The automatic will be easier and less expensive but everyone would understand if you wanted a stick. Hope this helps.
 
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Probably the most economic way to do the swap is with a truck engine (iron block). As stated, the LM7 5.3 is a good candidate. They are plentiful so they are cheap. One thing to watch out for is if the engine is GEN III like an LM7 (5.3) or an LQ4 (6.0) or if it is a GEN IV like an LMG (5.3) or an L96 (6.0). The GEN IV motors have a different reluctor ring on the crank than the GEN III motors. The GEN IV motors have drive by wire throttle bodies. If you want a drive by cable throttle body, then stick with a GEN III motor. Even late GEN III motors are drive by wire. I think 2003 1/2 ton trucks are drive by wire, for example.

If you can find one, a takeout engine with all the accessories, the PCM, wiring harness and transmission, that is likely the most economic route. If you go with a GEN IV engine, you will need to get the accelerator pedal as well from the donor vehicle. An LQ4/LQ9 and 4L80E would be the ideal find. That combo is sought after so it will cost more than an LM7/4L65E. The 5.3 with a cam, headers and tune makes plenty of power. I have that setup in my daily driven 2008 Sierra.

The truck front accessory drive, oil pan and intake manifold can be problematic with fitting our chassis depending on what mounts are used. There is a company making brackets to relocate the truck accessories to package them to fit the car chassis better. This is likely the best route to go with for your front accessory drive. Most people just swap the truck oil pan because it hangs so low. The GM "muscle car" oil pan (Hummer H5 pan) is a popular choice. Holley makes an entire swap system for the G Body with accessory brackets, mounts, headers, trans crossmember and oil pan. It is a really nice engineered solution but it is not cheap. Depending on what mounts you use, the truck intake manifold can be problematic on hood clearance but there are plenty of people running them in these cars. The truck intake is ugly in my opinion but its long runners make good low end torque.

Are you good with an automatic transmission or do you want a stick? The automatic will be easier and less expensive but everyone would understand if you wanted a stick. Hope this helps.
Man you pretty much just finished my project for me.lol. it'll definitely be automatic..i found a website lsx4u.com and they have everything you mentioned..the hard part is finding an installer that want hurt my pockets to bad. I look forward to this build..cant wait to get back state side now
 
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If you are paying for the install get the Gen 4 4.8L, get a good cam and rev it to the moon (7000-7500rpm is easy work). I would not do a 4L60e as it is a time bomb. Look into a 4L80e.
 
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Man you pretty much just finished my project for me.lol. it'll definitely be automatic..i found a website lsx4u.com and they have everything you mentioned..the hard part is finding an installer that want hurt my pockets to bad. I look forward to this build..cant wait to get back state side now
Thanks for your service. Let us know how it goes. This might provide some inspiration for you. It's an L96 (GEN IV 6.0) in my brother's 78 Z28. We did the swap together.....
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We got it from Nordstrom's in South Dakota. www.nordstromsauto.com

Here is a picture of it on the pallet as delivered....

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