Calling all Olds engine gurus

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My dad has been having a hell of a time keeping water pump gaskets in his 68 Olds 442 'vert with a mild 455 in it. The problem started last year. Water pump gasket blew out, replaced the gasket it blew in the exact same spot again. Replaced pump with another stocker and with new gasket it blew again, same spot. Ordered an aluminum pump with a new gasket of course and on the first test drive last night it blew out AGAIN. To recap, this car has had 3 different pumps....2 stock pumps and one aftermarket Milodon aluminum pump.

This is where the gasket blows out everytime. And yes block is clean with no visible damage.
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This is the result after a test drive around the block.
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Any ideas here guys? This engine has been in the car and running for about 10 years. Issue only started last year out of no where. My dad is at a loss and doesn't even want to look at the car anymore.
 

565bbchevy

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I am not an Olds guy but I would be looking real hard at that area on the engine where it mounts to, I find it hard to believe that the issue is with the pumps or gaskets. IMO
 
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foxtrot

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I have a crazy idea but could the issue be that the engine has a head gasket leak? Maybe the head gasket leak is causing pressure buildup thus blowing out the gasket in that spot?
 
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Blake442

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Check the timing cover first for pitting.
When I got my engine gasket set, there were like 4 different style water pump gaskets. Make sure yours is correct.
Are you coating the gasket with RTV and letting it cure, or just putting it on dry?
Put a straight-edge along the backside of the pump to make sure the mounting area isn't warped or machined improperly.
 

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Look at timing cover. Loosen rad cap to first notch and see what happens
 
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As said something is way off. I have never had a water pump gasket fail on the Olds V8. Check the timing cover very carefully. If it is corroded, clean with a wire wheel or 3M buffing pad on a drill, that is what I use. As said, I would replace the rad cap, pressure test the system to check for internal leaks, something is way off. Also make sure the thermostat is opening properly, that would blow into the reservoir first, you would think.
 
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I guess the timing cover was replaced last summer after the 2nd stock pump started leaking. No silicone on this last try and I didn't ask about the other times. He got a new gasket which looks different in that it's wider around the bottom instead of being so narrow like the previous ones. He's going to try this one with silicone and see how it works.
 
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I always silicone both sides of the gasket. Yes, some gaskets are quite narrow. I have been using the Felpro gasket.
 
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