"Grand Nasty"

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Qdub24

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I feel the car is an exercise in excess - and I love it. It is cleanly executed and not particularly gawdy, and if it can perform to its potential all the better.

That said - I find his "posing" with the car irritating. It is pretty audacious to posture in front of something you had nothing to do with the creation of. Do people do this in front of their TVs, couches, toaster ovens? No... or at least I hope not. Because you are just a consumer - and this car is no different - it is a commodity (parts and labour brought together by another) and paid for by you.

Just because you bought it, doesn't make it yours.

That sounds like jealousy or very flawed logic. So because the vast majority of people buy their own house instead of building it themselves, then it isn't theirs? That sounds exactly like something the old timers on other forums would say.
 
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pontiacgp

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That sounds like jealousy or very flawed logic. So because the vast majority of people buy their own house instead of building it themselves, then it isn't theirs? That sounds exactly like something the old timers on other forums would say.

When you buy a house you alter the house to make you happy, maybe knock down a few walls and build a few and many people do that on their own, the cars we have were not built by us but most of us have modified and altered the car to make us happy. What is the difference?
 

Qdub24

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When you buy a house you alter the house to make you happy, maybe knock down a few walls and build a few and many people do that on their own, the cars we have were not built by us but most of us have modified and altered the car to make us happy. What is the difference?

I wouldn't have bought that house then. Buy what you actually want, or have it built from the ground up as you as see fit, that's just how I operate though.
 

motorheadmike

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That sounds like jealousy or very flawed logic. So because the vast majority of people buy their own house instead of building it themselves, then it isn't theirs? That sounds exactly like something the old timers on other forums would say.

But, yet I am 39 and here we are having the discussion. You are starting to make this personal - which is your prerogative - but it weakens your overall status in the debate. Always address the central point of the argument.

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But, yes - I knowingly bought my house and have, with my own hands, shaped it into our home. The same way I bought my cars and shaped them into hotrods... again with my own hands. It is called sweat equity.
 
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Clone TIE Pilot

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It is an impressive build. I think one reason it makes some upset because it shows how even the most advanced of the stock G body powerplants is simply outdated along with most everything else in these cars. The other issue is it shows money can easily trump hard work, talent, knowledge, and skill, through those attributes are needed for gaining large sums of money beside inheritance. Also if indicates how hotrodding, like Christmas is becoming highly commercialized and that people can just pay to have hotrods built by shops that are probably superior than what many of us could do building it ourselves. The Grand Nasty is pretty much a Ringer.

However, I do have a few concerns regarding this car. Hopefully they used an aftermarket frame as even a reinforced stock frame can't handle that much power for long. Even factory built supercars with 1,000 hp require frequent inspections and even x rays as that much power causes a lot of stress and fatigue can happen fast at those power levels. Even a factory normal production aluminum LS block can be suspect at such a high power level and either a stronger aftermarket racing block or even a cast iron LS block would be better for such high hp and boost levels. Iron blocks deflect less than aluminum blocks and why they are still used in trucks and prefered for high boosting. Not to mention 1.5k hp is pretty useless on the street and as another poster said, it is just bragging rights. I doubt it could cross the country without making two or three major inspection stops for checking signs of stress and fatigue which would require disassembly. That much power comes with a lot of responsibility. I am not sure how responsible it is to push that much power through an outdated grandma car that was never designed to be a supercar?
 
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pagrunt

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It is an impressive build. I think one reason it makes some upset because it shows how even the most advanced of the stock G body powerplants is simply outdated along with most everything else in these cars. The other issue is it shows money can easily trump hard work, talent, knowledge, and skill, through those attributes are needed for gaining large sums of money beside inheritance. Also if indicates how hotrodding, like Christmas is becoming highly commercialized and that people can just pay to have hotrods built by shops that are probably superior than what many of us could do building it ourselves. The Grand Nasty is pretty much a Ringer.

However, I do have a few concerns regarding this car. Hopefully they used an aftermarket frame as even a reinforced stock frame can't handle that much power for long. Even factory built supercars with 1,000 hp require frequent inspections and even x rays as that much power causes a lot of stress and fatigue can happen fast at those power levels. Even a factory normal production aluminum LS block can be suspect at such a high power level and either a stronger aftermarket racing block or even a cast iron LS block would be better for such high hp and boost levels. Iron blocks deflect less than aluminum blocks and why they are still used in trucks and prefered for high boosting. Not to mention 1.5k hp is pretty useless on the street and as another poster said, it is just bragging rights. I doubt it could cross the country without making two or three major inspection stops for checking signs of stress and fatigue which would require disassembly. That much power comes with a lot of responsibility. I am not sure how responsible it is to push that much power through an outdated grandma car that was never designed to be a supercar?
Makes me feel better that I home built a 300 HP (1970 advertised) 350 for my stock frame. I'll be happy if it comes close to 250 HP real world.
 
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