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KevinG

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Have a guy showing up in 30 min with a 1984 regal t-type with 69000km original.car is mint. What' a perfect one worth? A general idea would help.
 

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Paint looks to be a wh1 designer series (trunk lid would confirm).

With a turbo buick accurate value is in the details... lear siegler seats? Digital dash? Elect climate control? G80 posi?

Originality is suspect with those cheap cutlass rims swapped on, makes me question the rest of the car. Look like they may have been painted along with the car.

Is mileage proven documented? Or just relying on the ol gm 5 digit odometer that can roll over.

It's a hot air, really not worth what an 86-87 would be.

Not seeing more I'd go $7000 or so as a good top value with all its questionmarks.
 
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'86-87 an Documented 41K mile car is $15K USD, minimum, all day, everyday. '84-85 and unless the concerns CK80 has about documentation and miles aren't there, $7K about the top of the market.

Consignment houses and people that buy classic cars, but have zero idea what they are looking at under a hood ask and expect $12K to $15K but you'd have to find the right sucker who will endure the verbal abuse from the 86'-87 guys and pay more to go slower ('84's 85's are much harder to make fast - which is the whole point of owning a TR).

Reasonably priced, Nice, '86-87 cars are getting harder and harder to find which could bring up the prices of the earlier versions, but the by the time you get a car like this into the 12's you could have bought a just as nice '86-87 that ran 12's almost stock.

Looks like a very nice Turbo LS swap candidate, then it would have some muscle to go with the looks.
 

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I got the original rims.and tires that came with the car. The mileage is proven. It was also recently appraised.
 

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Trying to upload pic of appraisal
 

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KevinG

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Wheels and under hood
 

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UNGN

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$30K CDN (#23K USD) is crackpipe territory for an '84 T-type. I sold my all option, original paint, intercooled 25K mile '86 GN for $22 a few years ago. It is probably worth $25 USD today and at least 2X what anyone who knows Turbo Buicks would pay for an '84 GN in similar condition. Note that GN's are worth more than T-types. I've had both, I know.

$23K USD for an '84 (even a very nice one) is counting on a sucker who DOESN'T know Turbobuicks buying it. I wish them luck.
 

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For reference, this is what a $22K GN looks like under the hood:
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Clean up the engine compartment bolt on the factory wheels/tires, get some good pictures of it and a put it up for sale for $20K and take the first offer for $17K. It may be a while, but maybe there are guys out there that have always wanted an '84 for some weird reason. There weren't many of those guys in 1984, but who knows, maybe there are more now.
 

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$30K CDN (#23K USD) is crackpipe territory for an '84 T-type. I sold my all option, original paint, intercooled 25K mile '86 GN for $22 a few years ago. It is probably worth $25 USD today and at least 2X what anyone who knows Turbo Buicks would pay for an '84 GN in similar condition. Note that GN's are worth more than T-types. I've had both, I know.

$23K USD for an '84 (even a very nice one) is counting on a sucker who DOESN'T know Turbobuicks buying it. I wish them luck.

I was hoping someone else would say it first. $17k CDN would be $12k USD?? (I don't know the current rate)

At that price, it should be spotless above, beneath, and underhood. But don't raise it in the air and undercoat or rattle can rustoleum over rusty spots either... that's pretty obvious and lowers the car value further.

Underhood looks like someone made a quick/amateur detail attempt. I'd say bag and protect the electronics and spring for a steam cleaning.

At $10-12k USD the car will sit for a while. At $17k USD it may take several years to find a buyer. At $23k USD it may require insuring it for that value and promptly ramming a tree to collect under collision coverage. That said, to each their own, and remember PT Barnums famous quote....
 
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We may sound like a bunch of harsh ****'s, but I have personally witnessed over 20 years of internet belittlement of "hot air guys" on the internet (and was there when they first came out) and wouldn't wish that on anyone.

84-85 cars were only bought new by "Buick guys". They are "rare" because they were expensive, complicated and nobody but "Buick guys" wanted them. Stereotypical Buick guys back then were upper middle class, 35+ years old who was a jr. member of a country club and was a little douchey. If he were 5-10 years younger, he would be "villian" older guy in an '80's John Hughes movie who tried to take the girl away from the loveable, funny nerd who was going places.

The 86-87's Changed the "Buick guy" stereotype: Mustang people bought them, Mopar people bought them, Chevy people bought them, kids wanted them. They were fast, very fast and people noticed. Non "Buick guys" becoming the "Neo Buick guy" made things pretty bad for the traditional "Buick guy" and the 84-85 cars got torched in the process.

Then guys trying to make 84-85 cars fast got mocked by even the traditional "Buick guys" that saw the light and traded up. I witnessed it with my own eyes. For almost 25 years.

It looks like the owner of this car bowed to the peer pressure and added a third brake light. As long as he keeps the hood closed nobody will be disappointed.

If you are thinking about buying it, know what you are getting into and unless you are buying it cheap, don't.
 
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