83 Hurst 307 Engine and 200R4 Metric transmission value?

83hurst

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The 200 in any form at their current age needs a rebuild. The later 442, MC SS and GN/GNX units had a couple steps up on the rest of them, but for the price of the servo, valve body , one other part that is slipping my mind at the moment, the price to rebuild and upgrade those parts is minimal to say the least. They are worth money as the cores become fewer. And the upgraded parts aren't as popular as they once were, but all of those parts can be found at reasonable prices.

Good luck with the 307 though.
thanks 64nailhead for the information.
 
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rogue_ryder

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I still don't understand why people don't take a regular Cutlass Supreme/Calais/Salon, paint it up like an H/O or 442, and put in whatever strange engine/transmission combo they like, and resist tearing up a "real deal" H/O or 442.

Nearly impossible to find a clean Salon or Calais that's worth builiding! (and the Supreme or Brougham are just gross with pillow top bench seats and column shifters). The H/O and 442 also have the quicker steering gearbox, 8.5" rear end and the big sway bars not found on the other cars and the OZ code trans is another huge bonus. The 8.5 rear axle alone these days is going for over $1,000 used. If you found a clean Salon it'd cost close to the H/O or 442 and require many thousands to bring it to the starting point of the H/O/442. The only valueable H/Os and 442s I see are the ones that have extremely low mileage and YES you'd be a mad man if you cut up one of those cars.

I don't find LS swapped H/Os and 442s nearly as disturbing as I do when I see GNs LS swapped. I do think a 455 or 350 (Olds) swapped H/O and 442 actually do the car justice because the 307 was such a slug even with 3.73s and the performance shifting 2004R. But I'm no purist. I like to drive the cars not show them off and have someone judge accuracy of sticker placement.
 
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83hurst

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Nearly impossible to find a clean Salon or Calais that's worth builiding! (and the Supreme or Brougham are just gross with pillow top bench seats and column shifters). The H/O and 442 also have the quicker steering gearbox, 8.5" rear end and the big sway bars not found on the other cars and the OZ code trans is another huge bonus. The 8.5 rear axle alone these days is going for over $1,000 used. If you found a clean Salon it'd cost close to the H/O or 442 and require many thousands to bring it to the starting point of the H/O/442. The only valueable H/Os and 442s I see are the ones that have extremely low mileage and YES you'd be a mad man if you cut up one of those cars.

I don't find LS swapped H/Os and 442s nearly as disturbing as I do when I see GNs LS swapped. I do think a 455 or 350 (Olds) swapped H/O and 442 actually do the car justice because the 307 was such a slug even with 3.73s and the performance shifting 2004R. But I'm no purist. I like to drive the cars not show them off and have someone judge accuracy of sticker placement.
Thanks for you thoughts. I just wanted a ride that I can drive daily, enjoy, and have no issues with. Some people fringe on the LS swap, but I like reliability and a little power to go with it. I maintained the shifters and they work perfectly with the 4L60e trans, smooth shift, slight rumble and adjustability with the tune. For me it was a win win, for others not so much. Unless I raise the hood, you would not know what was under the hood. As mentioned in previous post, The car looks nice, and with the grey interior and astro roof, makes a good driver. If the car was all original when I purchased in 2016 and had all the OEM parts, I would have kept it ALL original, but it was a good deal, on a unique car, that now functions a reliably driver.
83 hurst.
 
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