Back To The Regal

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Finally after approximately 8 or 9 months of work, my Ford truck project is (mostly) back in one piece. It's now running and drivable, though it needs some odds and ends (small exhaust leak, needs a timing cover gasket, drivers door needs reassembled, I want to coat the underside with Fluid Film, etc.) I really loved doing that project and it was a lot of rewarding hard work, but it did distract me from my Regal. I'm now at a good stopping point with the truck that I can shift my focus back to the Regal.

If you aren't already aware, my 1987 Regal, which started out as my first project car in March of 2012, has been sitting under a cover in my home garage with no engine or transmission for about two years. In 2016, about a month or two after completing the extensive amount of body work, which included lifting the body off of the frame, I decided I couldn't stand the gutless nature of the original V6 any longer (it never ran great, anyways) and so I pulled it and the metric 200 transmission out and bought a 1976 Buick 350 with grand plans of building it up to make decent horsepower.

Well I got the motor disassembled and cleaned, and carefully labeled and organized, and then life got in the way and its still apart today. At this point, I am much more familiar with Buick engines than I was when I bought it, and knowing what I know now, I don't really want to invest the kind of money it would take to get that engine to where I would be happy with it.

Now I could still easily do a hone and re-ring on that engine and put it back in the car and have a running, driving Regal with a Buick 350 in it, but then I still have to get a transmission, radiator, driveshaft etc. to get it running, and if I decided to mod it later, I wouldn't feel comfortable doing power upgrades on a bone stock re-ringed engine.

So here's where I am now. My current idea is this- I have a 1998 BMW 323is Coupe that is sort of an extra car. I really do like the thing, and it's super fun to drive. It needs nothing (other than a stick shift swap, which I have been hoarding parts for) and I have done a ton of maintenance work to it, using only BMW parts and I have receipts from the dealership for everything. However, I don't drive it very much. In fact, I don't drive it at all during the winter. So I am considering selling it and using the money and space from that car to buy a running, driving G-Body with a decent engine already in it, and swapping the complete drivetrain into my Regal. I can probably pick something up cheap, as it doesn't have to be pretty, complete, or even have a title. It just needs to run and drive. I can swap the power train over, and then part out/sell/scrap whatever is left, and make a little bit of money back. I can also take the Buick 350 I have, do a re-ring and put new bearings in it, and sell it as a refreshed engine, and possibly make a little off of it.

I'm still sorta in the idea phase of this whole thing and nothing is set in stone, but I will be getting back to the Regal soon, one way or the other.

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I agree with pagrunt go with the Buick 350 ,sure building one is not cheap ( yes I'am too deep in one now ) but switching direction now is still pricey...and the hope of finding a cheap running g-body with a solid drivetrain to swap over... maybe easier said then done
 
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I agree with pagrunt go with the Buick 350 ,sure building one is not cheap ( yes I'am too deep in one now ) but switching direction now is still pricey...and the hope of finding a cheap running g-body with a solid drivetrain to swap over... maybe easier said then done

You're damn right about Buicks being expensive to build. Out of the three machine shops that I trust, only one was willing to even touch a Buick motor, and he said he would only do it because he knew me as a frequent customer, but labor was going to be more.

The thing is, for what it would cost me to get the Buick built to where I would want it, I know I can buy a complete car with roached body and interior and a mild Chevy 350, and not have to chase down all the bits and pieces to get it up and running in my car.
 
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Why would they not touch it? Boring machines and ultrasonic cleaners aren't chevy specific. All them chuckle heads need to do is bore/hone and cam bearings. If they can't do that, they shouldn't be in business.
 

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There's really no reason to not run that Buick 350. You already have a good core, its 100+lbs lighter than a SBC, stump pulling big block torque in a SB package, and you have the good rods which are good upto 600hp. Not that you'll need that much. My 8:1 motor would annihilate the tires at a blip of the throttle. I spent about 2500 on my blue motor ('76, like yours), and 1600 on my red SP engine currently calling the Regal home. They aren't all that more expensive when you get down to it. A 300hp Buick will be way more fun and reliable than a 500 horse chevy.

.030 over, 340P cast pistons (shallow dish), crower level 3 cam, 800cfm qjet, guaranteed 300hp/400ftlbs. Headers are a proven 30hp gain, but for $500, I wouldn't bother.
 
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Why would they not touch it? Boring machines and ultrasonic cleaners aren't chevy specific. All them chuckle heads need to do is bore/hone and cam bearings. If they can't do that, they shouldn't be in business.

Its not that they can't, it's that they don't want to.

There are 3 local shops I use and trust. They are good guys and they've all been in business a long time. However, all three of them are in no shortage of customers, so they can pick and choose what jobs they want to take. A Chevy motor is less work for them than a Buick, they build Chevys day in and day out. Familiar work is easy work.
 

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agree with all the bits and pieces , nickel & dime ( ok $50 & $100 ) you to death. But whatever direction you go there will be a cost.
when I hit $3,000 Canadian into my buick 350 built ...a new crate GM chevy 350 (lower hp ) was advertised for $1,500 US delivered in the 48 states.
I did start to question my sanity at that point...........where I now stand in my built $$$ wise ....well now it's deep.

what ever direction you go , I will always say your Regal looks great !!!
 

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Its not that they can't, it's that they don't want to.

There are 3 local shops I use and trust. They are good guys and they've all been in business a long time. However, all three of them are in no shortage of customers, so they can pick and choose what jobs they want to take. A Chevy motor is less work for them than a Buick, they build Chevys day in and day out. Familiar work is easy work.
How? They don't have to build it, just bore it and cam bearings. The processes are the same. just the buick bore is smaller by .2. And buicks all they have to do is make sure the rods and mains are no bigger than .002. If they can't do that well then... you know. If you got that one friend willing, take him up on it. Every thing short of boring and cam bearings you can do yourself.
 

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