I wanna get some people to chime in on this. I know there have been several posts all over the internet on different forums about G Bodies being collectable but I wanna get some opinions on this. Most people don't view the Monte Carlo's Cutlass's Regals etc as muscle cars or being collectable because of the lack of power they produced from the factory. But I got to thinking today and thought that could be true but maybe not. I've owned several G Bodies specifically the Olds Cutlass and i've seen hundreds. So to get to the point, speaking on behalf of the Cutlass Supreme GBody I think it will be collectable because, one it was one of the highest selling cars of the 80s and one of the most popular old cars today, they're highly sought after now and when they came out in the 80s, they're easy to modify, and they're a favorite of weekend drag racers and the "DONK" crowd. Having said that, I believe since now days finding a original Cutlass is very scarce, most have been converted to Chevy 350's or have been cut up for giant rims or have been completely rebuilt from the ground up for drag racing. Most collectors pay top dollar for an all original vehicle or atleast a car with the original drive train. So not only will the number of original cutlass's or any GBody for that matter go down but once people are done drag racing them and tired of riding with huge rims most will be sold to the scrap yard I see it all the time, and the ones that are left 9 times out of 10 are no longer original, so thinking about the car becoming more rare and older as time goes on and few original models left do you all think that a original Cutlass Regal Monte Carlo Grand Prix etc will be a top dollar car because they will become more and more rare as time goes on and original models will be very few? Just food for thought. Just want to get some opinions.
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GbodyTech92...to be honest, the gbody was the lineage of a big dog that was muffled and somewhat tame by US regulation. The strongest motivational reason behind us gbody fanatics is that these cars are cheap, popular, last of the rear wheel driven cars and have some of the provisions to further the historical lineage of abody's, fbody's, & xbody's of the prime years of the 60s-70s. I truly love these cars. My uncles, brothers and cousins have had gbodys that have given me the reason to continue with this vision for the cars but I truly believe that we are in this to live vicariously through the 60s to the 70s.
I think the best thing we can do is add the creative individual input that each of us have to give what we think and show what we feel that they should have been. So add that LS, TPI, TBI, EZ EFI, Big Block, Supercharged, Turbocharged motor to put your own spin on your own project and we as FANATICS will acknowledge, as a collective, "how they should have been"
I think the best thing we can do is add the creative individual input that each of us have to give what we think and show what we feel that they should have been. So add that LS, TPI, TBI, EZ EFI, Big Block, Supercharged, Turbocharged motor to put your own spin on your own project and we as FANATICS will acknowledge, as a collective, "how they should have been"
That's a very interesting notion. There is a lot of good reasoning there. I think that models such as the Monte Carlo SS, GNX, Grand National, Hurst Olds, 442, and lets not forget el camino ss will be very valuable if all original because they came with the desirable factory options like the bucket seats, shifter, more power etc. I don't think that my cutlass supreme brougham v6 will ever be very valuable, however. I would keep it original if it were a 442, but I want to do a swap.
This got my attention, here is my thoughts, I don't think the overall low power of these cars will keep them from becoming collectible, look at say a model T made what twenty horse power, the huge production numbers hurt these cars as of now because so many of them are still going, but look at some of the Craigslist finds I have listed in my area, these cars are very hard to find up here, the rust killed off all the daily driven cars years ago, and high scrap prices have eliminated all of them from the scrap yards, a clean G car is easy 4k up here all day, I paid just under that for my car. Many of you guys could have bought my car way cheaper around you, a solid low mile monte is all of 6-7k. I think as more of them are wiped off the earth it will drive up the prices on what is remaining
i think there is and will be a market for stock g-body parts/cars. i'm trying to get something going to where i can refurbish parts and try to sell them at a decent price to allow those with not so deep pockets a chance at fixing up their car. i'm thinking everything from frames to bodies and whatever else. perhaps "rebuilding" a car to original in equipment and looks. i like to recycle and cars are a great way to recycle. not all parts can be saved but i believe a lot more can be saved by buying them and stripping them of all useable parts rather than crushing them and selling them for scrap. unfortunately my funds to start all this is limited but i have a few bucks and i'm just getting started.
people can think whatever they want but few can truly afford a chevelle anymore, a monte ss is a much more viable option and i think that will increase their demand. i have goofy ideas of making carbon fiber parts just to help eliminate rust issues. i'm just tired of sitting back and see these cars get destroyed while they still have plenty of parts that can be used. there's so much more that can be done for these cars than what is being done and rather than being part of the problem i want to be part of the solution.
people can think whatever they want but few can truly afford a chevelle anymore, a monte ss is a much more viable option and i think that will increase their demand. i have goofy ideas of making carbon fiber parts just to help eliminate rust issues. i'm just tired of sitting back and see these cars get destroyed while they still have plenty of parts that can be used. there's so much more that can be done for these cars than what is being done and rather than being part of the problem i want to be part of the solution.
As G bodies get thinner on the ground they will increase in value simply due to rarity.
Whether they will be "collectible" as in fetching better prices than contemporary similar cars is hard to tell.
Cars of similar vintage over here are just beginning to increase in value, they seem to be following a similar trend to the USA, straightforward rwd cars are the ones in demand, my guess is because they are the ones the rodders want.
As a conventional simply laid out car I guess G bodies will follow that trend, the upscale/performance models first, followed by the lesser ones. Parts being easy to find certainly helps, as does looking like a traditional American car.
High metal prices has emptied the scrapyards over here, a car will fetch equivalent to $2-300 if it's a burnt out shell at the scrapyard gate, however that hasn't boosted the price of fixer-uppers, for not much more you can buy a 10-15 year old car with a few years life left in it.
Roger.
Whether they will be "collectible" as in fetching better prices than contemporary similar cars is hard to tell.
Cars of similar vintage over here are just beginning to increase in value, they seem to be following a similar trend to the USA, straightforward rwd cars are the ones in demand, my guess is because they are the ones the rodders want.
As a conventional simply laid out car I guess G bodies will follow that trend, the upscale/performance models first, followed by the lesser ones. Parts being easy to find certainly helps, as does looking like a traditional American car.
High metal prices has emptied the scrapyards over here, a car will fetch equivalent to $2-300 if it's a burnt out shell at the scrapyard gate, however that hasn't boosted the price of fixer-uppers, for not much more you can buy a 10-15 year old car with a few years life left in it.
Roger.
I agree 100%. There were a ridiculous number of Gbodies built over the 10 year run. The "special" models will always be worth more money, obviously. If I had an original '66 Chevelle SS I probably wouldn't back-half it and do an LS swap. However, I would have no problem doing that to a 6cyl base model or a wagon. I find it interesting that on almost any forum a member will get ridiculed whenever they start modifying a nice example of an original car. The same guys doing the flaming usually are guilty (to some degree) of the same "sin".duppyconqueror said:
It's all relative. By the time any stockish Gbody starts demanding Yenko or Shelby money the Yenkos and Shelbys will be worth twice as much again. There's no denying that G values have risen in the last few years but that's bound to happen to ANY old car.
Personally, I'll probably just keep tweaking mine to my taste and enjoying it. I will, however, keep all the original parts and make sure that any changes I make are reversible. It's not that I think my car will ever be very valuable but I like the idea that it could go back to stock. I's been in the family since new so I have no intent to sell it. My daughter has zero interest in cars. Maybe someday I'll have a son-in-law who does. Maybe my nephew might want it. I don't know. I don't really look at mine as an investment.
On a side note, I feel there's going to eventually be a tipping point on the whole collector car thing. If you think about it, the typical collector is pretty old. These guys grew up living cars. Every subsequent generation -- not so much. I just don't see the demand in 30-40 years. It's hard for me to imagine today's typical 17 year old giving a rat's *ss about a nice, original '86 SS (442, H/O, GP, etc) when they finally reach the age that they have some disposable income to invest in a small car collection. Maybe a Civic or a Jetta :lol: .
" On a side note, I feel there's going to eventually be a tipping point on the whole collector car thing. If you think about it, the typical collector is pretty old."
Watch it,I resemble that remark..... :wink:
Watch it,I resemble that remark..... :wink:
DRIVEN said:
When I was 17 (1972) I didn't give a rats *ss about 25-30 year old cars, or anything much more than about 10 years old. Mainly because I couldn't afford anything new and 10 year old cars wee just about within my budget.
I bet at that time in the USA most people looked down their noses at the lumbering overchromed behemoths from the '50s, now any that have survived are prized collectibles. Even so some or more desirable than others, a '59 Cadillac or Tri-Chevy is worth more than a Ford or Chrysler of the same vintage, not because they are better or worse cars dynamically, just the way things panned out.
Who knows, perhaps in 20 years time a Hyundai or Dodge Caliber might be THE car to show up in at a cruise in
. Roger.
Who knows, perhaps in 20 years time a Hyundai or Dodge Caliber might be THE car to show up in at a cruise in .
The day that a Hyundai is the car to have at a show, will be by far the worst day in American history.
The day that a Hyundai is the car to have at a show, will be by far the worst day in American history.
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