Gas prices are weird.

Wageslave

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Ever since the 1st of the year, when my state raised their gas taxes, my go to gas station has had some odd gas prices.

Regular E10 87 - $2.499
No ethanol 87 - $2.339
No ethanol 92 - $2.439

I am not sure in what bizarro world no ethanol gas costs less than ethanol gas, but I am not complaining.

That being said, other than my Bonneville, I usually fill up with the E15, since it has been unchanged at $1.969 for over a year now.

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motorheadmike

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Because there is a problem with ethanol production or logistics.
 

Texas82GP

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Ever since the 1st of the year, when my state raised their gas taxes, my go to gas station has had some odd gas prices.

Regular E10 87 - $2.499
No ethanol 87 - $2.339
No ethanol 92 - $2.439

I am not sure in what bizarro world no ethanol gas costs less than ethanol gas, but I am not complaining.

That being said, other than my Bonneville, I usually fill up with the E15, since it has been unchanged at $1.969 for over a year now.

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That's a pretty foreign gas pump setup to me. Here, we have 87, 89, and 93 octane. All of it is E-10. In limited places you can find E85 but it isn't competitive at all down here so I don't know why. If you go outside Harris County, you can find Ethanol-gas, like if you go to the west out to Waller County. Why do you guys have E-10, E-15, E-30, E-50 and E-85?
 

81cutlass

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A giant Derecho (land hurricane essentially) rolled through central IA and western IL this summer and took a few million acres of corn production out.

BUT it doesn't explain why E10 is more than E0 87.
 
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Wageslave

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That's a pretty foreign gas pump setup to me. Here, we have 87, 89, and 93 octane. All of it is E-10. In limited places you can find E85 but it isn't competitive at all down here so I don't know why. If you go outside Harris County, you can find Ethanol-gas, like if you go to the west out to Waller County. Why do you guys have E-10, E-15, E-30, E-50 and E-85?
This station uses mixing pumps. Basically one tank of E85 and one tank of ethanol free, and the grade selected sets the ratio of one to another. I am not sure who the target market for the E30 or the E50 is, but most fuel injected vehicles will handle E15 and anything with a yellow gas cap can take E85.

E85 is relatively cheap around here since there are multiple ethanol production facilities in this part of the country and it is subsidized out the wazoo.
 

motorheadmike

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This station uses mixing pumps. Basically one tank of E85 and one tank of ethanol free, and the grade selected sets the ratio of one to another. I am not sure who the target market for the E30 or the E50 is, but most fuel injected vehicles will handle E15 and anything with a yellow gas cap can take E85.

E85 is relatively cheap around here since there are multiple ethanol production facilities in this part of the country and it is subsidized out the wazoo.

Hmmm... that's interesting. Maybe the E10 87 is linked to recent events in Washington or He-Who-Shall-Not-Be-Named?
 

jiho

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Here, we have 87, 89, and 93 octane. All of it is E-10. In limited places you can find E85 but it isn't competitive at all down here so I don't know why.
Same here in north California, except 91 not 93, and all the grades tend to wander between $3-$4, usually closer to $3.50 than to $3, if not more. That's for our own special California-only state mandated RFG (ReFormulated Gasoline).

EDIT: I might add, the state issuing RFG specifications limits what's available here. You'd think they'd want more E85, but there's practically none, and other than that. just the three grades of E10.
 
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69hurstolds

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It changes because WTI and Brent are pushing mid-$50s per barrel. OPEC+ is holding on their cuts, global demand is still squishy, but they're also banking on US exploration/production being knee-capped soon which will pull down the production side. To what degree, nobody knows yet. Right now, it's more anticipation. The floor could fall out from this if Covid crackdowns stay in place.
 
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