GM 12 Bolt Rear End to G-Body

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abrodeur79

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Hi everyone,

I know this has been posted on here and I have searched but just want to make sure i have the correct info for what I need.

I have a 78 Cutlass Supreme with the GM 7.5 Rear end. I know they do not hold up at all as soon as some power and sticky tires are added to the mix.

I was browsing around and found a used GM 12 bolt rear end from get this, a 1969 Cutlass. The guy wants 400 Canuck bucks for it so it seems like a great deal all things considered. I know there are other options for a rear end as well (GM 8.5 from a Grand National, 442 or Turbo Buick, Ford 8.8 from a Foxbody or SN95, Ford 9.) But they all require some work and fabrication to swap over.

Now, from what i have gathered on here, this particular axle is approximately 61 3/4" from axle face to axle face (a few inches wider than a stock 7.5), a different bolt pattern, and that for the swap to work, new adjustable upper control arms and the spherical bushings in the diff. housing are needed, the lower control arm mounts on the axle need to be relocated and new adjustable lower control arms used, and coil spring perches and shock absorber mounts relocated? Is this in the ball park for what needs to be done? And would using the dimensions and geometry from the stock 7.5 be the way to get everything just mint on this 12 bolt? Or can it be swapped in for less work than needed above?
The welding and fab is no issue for me!

I would more than likely grab a 12 bolt kit from one of the sponsors/shops on here and have at er. And please dont say to buy a brand new made to fit rearend. I would love to be able to buy a G-Body ready unit from Moser, Currie, etc., but they are out of the budget completely (Especially with exchange and shipping) and for what i want to do with this car (A solid, well built and fun street machine)

Thanks again everyone. Such a great community on here! 🍻(y):cool:
 
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MrSony

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From what I remember, the 68-72 CHEVROLET A Body 12 bolts are the ones you want. I dont remember why BOP aren't as desirable, I think the chevy is just more common or fits better. Regaurdless, UMI sells conversion control arms.
 
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abrodeur79

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From what I remember, the 68-72 CHEVROLET A Body 12 bolts are the ones you want. I dont remember why BOP aren't as desirable, I think the chevy is just more common or fits better. Regaurdless, UMI sells conversion control arms.

Interesting. I have heard the same thing. Mainly that the Oldsmobile 12 bolt is not a true "12 bolt" and that parts cant be interchanged. I asked the seller if he could get me any casting numbers. I believe the casting numbers on the axle tube themselves are the ones that will determine.Its got a Chevy 12 bolt diff cover with the inverted V thing on the top but im sure those could be easily swapped between an Olds and Chevy 12 bolt.
 

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BOP 12 bolts are different from Chevys.
Smaller weaker carriers bearings ring gears
 
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And more expensive to build as well
 
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Interesting. I have heard the same thing. Mainly that the Oldsmobile 12 bolt is not a true "12 bolt" and that parts cant be interchanged. I asked the seller if he could get me any casting numbers. I believe the casting numbers on the axle tube themselves are the ones that will determine.Its got a Chevy 12 bolt diff cover with the inverted V thing on the top but im sure those could be easily swapped between an Olds and Chevy 12 bolt.

a 64 - 67 A body rear is 2.5" wider than the G body rear, the 68 - 72 A body rear is 4.5" wider than a G body rear. I have a 67 8.2" A body rear and it's not hard to find wheels to tuck in behind the fender...
 
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What Turna said.
 
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