i was in 3.3 v6 cutlass ciera with a tore up transmission, and a harmonic balancer that was litterly coming apart, when id stop at light you could hear it, when you looked at iit could see it. the car ran like crap and i beat the piss out of it, to beat him. if he knew what he was doing i wouldnt have. but i had to, this was a case of me walking away bragging pride to rub in his face, or walking away with no pride and alot of people laughin, so yes beating this 2.0 in my grandma car was a hell of an accomplishment