Interesting Times

Tony1968

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Bringing this back up EU just announced last week there will be no more petrol powered anything made there in 10 years. Gone will be the sounds of 12 cylinder Ferrari and Lamborghini whaling away among others. It's not interesting but idiotic.
 

pagrunt

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Bringing this back up EU just announced last week there will be no more petrol powered anything made there in 10 years. Gone will be the sounds of 12 cylinder Ferrari and Lamborghini whaling away among others. It's not interesting but idiotic.
But yet coal plants are being restarting to supply their needed electricity...
Think Sesame Street GIF
 
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TonyO

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I work for one of the top 5 electric utilities in America (I’m no one there) but this topic always strikes a nerve. They are pouring money into transmission, but the generation side is scary. Nuclear is the answer now, but we had a reliable grid with all the coal fired units. They were dinosaurs and at the end of their lifespan, but that didn’t sneak up on us, we knew it was coming. I’ve read some interesting articles about government compensation to CEOs who “commit” to going green by a certain date. I believe PG&Es CEO got something around 11 million just to say “we are going green”. The funny thing is California relies on other states for a lot their generation, so that commitment doesn’t really mean much.

My bottom line is the current grid can not handle the load electric cars would put on it. No way, generation is not there anymore. I’ve even read articles that Chevy is planning to allow their EV cars to sell back to the grid during peak hours and charge on off peak hours. So they think a cars battery will help the grid, yeah ok.

Sorry I hope I’m not far from the subject, scanning through the thread it seems like there are many like minded people here. 99% of the time I don’t comment on this stuff, but sometimes it helps to vent lol.
 
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Ugly1

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I work for one of the top 5 electric utilities in America (I’m no one there) but this topic always strikes a nerve. They are pouring money into transmission, but the generation side is scary. Nuclear is the answer now, but we had a reliable grid with all the coal fired units. They were dinosaurs and at the end of their lifespan, but that didn’t sneak up on us, we knew it was coming. I’ve read some interesting articles about government compensation to CEOs who “commit” to going green by a certain date. I believe PG&Es CEO got something around 11 million just to say “we are going green”. The funny thing is California relies on other states for a lot their generation, so that commitment doesn’t really mean much.

My bottom line is the current grid can not handle the load electric cars would put on it. No way, generation is not there anymore. I’ve even read articles that Chevy is planning to allow their EV cars to sell back to the grid during peak hours and charge on off peak hours. So they think a cars battery will help the grid, yeah ok.

Sorry I hope I’m not far from the subject, scanning through the thread it seems like there are many like minded people here. 99% of the time I don’t comment on this stuff, but sometimes it helps to vent lol.
It’s always a great idea and way to go until it’s not. Then more money is spread around.
 

Supercharged111

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I work for one of the top 5 electric utilities in America (I’m no one there) but this topic always strikes a nerve. They are pouring money into transmission, but the generation side is scary. Nuclear is the answer now, but we had a reliable grid with all the coal fired units. They were dinosaurs and at the end of their lifespan, but that didn’t sneak up on us, we knew it was coming. I’ve read some interesting articles about government compensation to CEOs who “commit” to going green by a certain date. I believe PG&Es CEO got something around 11 million just to say “we are going green”. The funny thing is California relies on other states for a lot their generation, so that commitment doesn’t really mean much.

My bottom line is the current grid can not handle the load electric cars would put on it. No way, generation is not there anymore. I’ve even read articles that Chevy is planning to allow their EV cars to sell back to the grid during peak hours and charge on off peak hours. So they think a cars battery will help the grid, yeah ok.

Sorry I hope I’m not far from the subject, scanning through the thread it seems like there are many like minded people here. 99% of the time I don’t comment on this stuff, but sometimes it helps to vent lol.

 
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Tony1968

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But yet coal plants are being restarting to supply their needed electricity...
Think Sesame Street GIF
Someone recently advised Germany and Europe in general to not rely on Russian nat gas/oil. Pipeline gets "blown up" Whatdoya know
 
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