Monte Carlo special high power models

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Supercharged111

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I'm with Mike. If they're not gonna dyno it, tell them it's a fvckin 305. Are they gonna check the numbers? Even if they do, will they have any idea what they're looking at? What are the consequences for lying and getting caught?
 
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GN-Finland

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I'm with Mike. If they're not gonna dyno it, tell them it's a fvckin 305. Are they gonna check the numbers? Even if they do, will they have any idea what they're looking at? What are the consequences for lying and getting caught?
People who work at inspection centres and are responsible about engine swap stuff are always automotive engineers. Most of them are also car enthusiast and yes, everybody working there will see the difference between ironblock 305sbc and fuel injected LS1 in seconds. 305 -> 350 would be much easier heh.

If there isn't any high power models, i just have to try my best to prove these cheese heads that g-bodys share the same chassis.

WTF = Welcome To Finland
 
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565bbchevy

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i just have to try my best to prove these cheese heads that g-bodys share the same chassis.
Maybe show them this.
 
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Play the eco-weenie card: it's more efficient, burns cleaner, blah, blah, blah...






Yea he can get Gretta to come help him, isnt she from over there....

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Here in the US, only the Erod crate LS engines are legal to swap into older cars under Federal law. The issue is that standard production LS engines come with OBD2 enhanced EVAP systems that are imcompatible with old non enhanced gas tanks. While the law forbids downgrading factory emission systems, ie you can't downgrade a newer engine's emissions system to work in a older car swap. The Erods crate engines are special production engines come with special non enhanced Evaps for legal retrofitting into older cars in the US.

CA is the strictest state for emissions enforcement and they have failed plenty of LS swaps over the gas tank issue. Would not be surprised if the seller of the OP's car sold it because it failed CA swap inspections. Even if Finland did not have its bizarre HP limit, it should still fail because of the Evap issue unless the original gas tank was swapped ouf for the engine donor's more modern enhanced gas tank.

The HO 305 was rated 180 HP in MCSSs, and 190 HP in Camaros. With Finland's 20% HP increase limit, the max legal HP would be 180 x 1.20 = 216 HP legal limit.

The only G bodies to come with an offical Police 9C1 package were the Mailbu. Generally Police packages are not much if any more powerful than normal models, just more heavy duty. My CVPI only has 11 more HP than a normal Crown Vic. The FBI did use a few Turbo Buicks, but they did not have power enhancements.
 
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Supercharged111

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People who work at inspection centres and are responsible about engine swap stuff are always automotive engineers. Most of them are also car enthusiast and yes, everybody working there will see the difference between ironblock 305sbc and fuel injected LS1 in seconds. 305 -> 350 would be much easier heh.

If there isn't any high power models, i just have to try my best to prove these cheese heads that g-bodys share the same chassis.

WTF = Welcome To Finland

If they were real enthusiasts they'd turn a blind eye to an LS swap.
 
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oldsmobile joe

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have the inspection engineers compare and agree the g-body buick GNX chassis is the same as your monte ss. then show them this,

here an excerpt from the article
"Off the dyno the GNX engine is up 55 bhp from the standard Grand National's rating to 300 at 4400, while torque climbs from 355 to 420 at 2400 rpm."

this should allow you to run up to 360 hp ls motors legally.
 
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565bbchevy

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Basing off post #1, I was under the impression he could only use a Monte Carlo for this.
 
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