Window Stuck on 1986 Monte Carlo SS

[pagrunt]

Forum member @5spdCab supplied me with photos of where everything should mount and it worked like a champ. Shockingly, manual window doors have the holes in them for the power window regulators - who'd a guessed

One of the perks of GM cheaping out when our cars were built, one shell for both.

And a FYI for all haing to rip the guts out of the door (power or manual), The Fisher manual call for using U nuts (p/n 3916700 or 3982098) & 1/4-20x1/2 screws (p/n 9419723 or equivalent), torqued 90-125 in-lbs/10-14 N-m.

 

[64nailhead]

One of the perks of GM cheaping out when our cars were built, one shell for both.

And a FYI for all haing to rip the guts out of the door (power or manual), The Fisher manual call for using U nuts (p/n 3916700 or 3982098) & 1/4-20x1/2 screws (p/n 9419723 or equivalent), torqued 90-125 in-lbs/10-14 N-m.

I would've went for those clip nuts. They would've made the entire process somewhat easier. Where were you when I tackled this project lol

 

[pagrunt]

I would've went for those clip nuts. They would've made the entire process somewhat easier. Where were you when I tackled this project lol

South of you across that boarder in a "bit more free" state. I found this out gutting a power door shell for my Monte over ten years ago. I have a complete set for both doors incase the other one needs gutted or laziness kicks in & I convert to power windows. Plan to go this way with the power lock motors too.

 

[64nailhead]

South of you across that boarder in a "bit more free" state. I found this out gutting a power door shell for my Monte over ten years ago. I have a complete set for both doors incase the other one needs gutted or laziness kicks in & I convert to power windows. Plan to go this way with the power lock motors too.

Haha. I know most of PA is 'pretty' rural. And it's really easy to think of NY only as the part at the end of the Hudson. But I'll bet that if you spent much time in St. Lawrence or Franklin county, then you'd feel a bit oppressed in the land surrounding philly cheese steaks.


Aw, just kidding.

I looked into power locks, but they didn't have the same appeal to me. I know it's very popular for weight reduction to have manual windows or non-functioning lexan windows. But being at the track by myself on an 80-90 degree day the power windows start looking pretty good.

Are wagon and 4 door power window motor/regulators the same as the coupes?

 

[pagrunt]

Haha. I know most of PA is 'pretty' rural. And it's really easy to think of NY only as the part at the end of the Hudson. But I'll bet that if you spent much time in St. Lawrence or Franklin county, then you'd feel a bit oppressed in the land surrounding philly cheese steaks.


Aw, just kidding.

I looked into power locks, but they didn't have the same appeal to me. I know it's very popular for weight reduction to have manual windows or non-functioning lexan windows. But being at the track by myself on an 80-90 degree day the power windows start looking pretty good.

Are wagon and 4 door power window motor/regulators the same as the coupes?

The motors should be but regulators don't look the same in the Fisher manual I have handy.. Don't have the parts catalogs handy to cross the doors.

 

[CopperNick]

Yup, both patterns are there. I need to replace the driver's one in mine, it's wore out.


That part has me wondering, never have seen a spring anywhere in mine, either side.

Yeah, after I posted it, the vagueness kind of bothered me too. Thing here is that if he is dealing with motor drives, he is not likely to see an external spring but the danger is still there if he attempts to split the motor assembly off the sector gear and its frame. On a manual regulator the spring is right out there in the open in all its dangerous glory. Either way that sector gear has enough tension loaded into it that it can cause serious damage to unwary fingers. I have one of them to prove it.

 

[CopperNick]

As for differences in the size of the regulators, wish I could help because I have them both on the bench right now. Thing for me is that until the sawbones clears me for return to normal life I can't access the garage because I can't shovel and it is buried.

 

[Zippymac]

For what it is worth I got a post from west coast customs and changed the wiring out for grounded relays. one power power each motor and the grounded relay grouped under the dash. motors now get direct 12 v and ar much faster up and down verses everything going through the driver side window.

http://wright-here.net/images/rx7/Mods/PWindow_wiring.gif

 

[SS_Malibu]

As for differences in the size of the regulators, wish I could help because I have them both on the bench right now. Thing for me is that until the sawbones clears me for return to normal life I can't access the garage because I can't shovel and it is buried.

Where are all the kids in the neighborhood that help out the older generation? Oh wait, we are those kids.