shifter cable length on 2004r ...is it diff?

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bill

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My car came with the 200 metric. I am putting in a 200-4r. will the cable work or is it too short/long?

Thanks!
 
I did a quick part number comparison and this is what I got:

'87 SS, '85 GP Brougham, 305 powered w/ 200-4R ATP #Y239 27.25"
'85 Olds Salon, 307, 200-4R ATP #Y651 26.15"
TH200/TH350 ATP #Y116 29.75"
 
G-Body_Vet said:
I did a quick part number comparison and this is what I got:

'87 SS, '85 GP Brougham, 305 powered w/ 200-4R ATP #Y239 27.25"
'85 Olds Salon, 307, 200-4R ATP #Y651 26.15"
TH200/TH350 ATP #Y116 29.75"
wow...thats quite a difference in length. So my cable will be too long....uuggggggggg ...Next question...how much of a pain in the rear is taking off the console to get to this cable? .... I guess I should just change the shifter too while im at it so I can use the first gear.
 
G-Body_Vet said:
I did a quick part number comparison and this is what I got:

'87 SS, '85 GP Brougham, 305 powered w/ 200-4R ATP #Y239 27.25"
'85 Olds Salon, 307, 200-4R ATP #Y651 26.15"
TH200/TH350 ATP #Y116 29.75"
Thanks for the research...
 
G-Body_Vet said:
bill said:
Thanks for the research...

No problem. Pulling the console isn't that bad of a job either.
good...but heres another problem..if I change cables, will the shifter have to be changed too or will the 3speed shifter do the job with the diff cable length? Im looking for a 4speed shifter, but I may not be able to find one quickly.
 
Even if you change cable lengths, that wouldn't affect the shifter. Those adjustmenst can be made underside of the car..However a stock three speed shifter will not work. You will have to fund a shifter from a G bOdy car that had the O/D. I went with a B & M Pro-Stcik with the 4 speed gate plate when I switched to the O/D transmission..
 
JBreu said:
Even if you change cable lengths, that wouldn't affect the shifter. Those adjustmenst can be made underside of the car..However a stock three speed shifter will not work. You will have to fund a shifter from a G bOdy car that had the O/D. I went with a B & M Pro-Stcik with the 4 speed gate plate when I switched to the O/D transmission..
ok...just so I understand, ur saying a 3speed shifter wont work at all? or are you saying it wont work like a 4speed one would? Ive heard varying opinions on whether this setup will work or not. I expect it not to shift into low gear because it was not made for 4 selections. But it should go from park to reverse to neutral and to drive, right?
 
bill said:
JBreu said:
Even if you change cable lengths, that wouldn't affect the shifter. Those adjustmenst can be made underside of the car..However a stock three speed shifter will not work. You will have to fund a shifter from a G bOdy car that had the O/D. I went with a B & M Pro-Stcik with the 4 speed gate plate when I switched to the O/D transmission..
ok...just so I understand, ur saying a 3speed shifter wont work at all? or are you saying it wont work like a 4speed one would? Ive heard varying opinions on whether this setup will work or not. I expect it not to shift into low gear because it was not made for 4 selections. But it should go from park to reverse to neutral and to drive, right?
Why would you go through all that and not have your 1st gear??? YOu could use your existing 3 speed shifter and not be able to use the 1st gear...Doesn't make sense though, but you should be ok I think...
 
JBreu said:
bill said:
JBreu said:
Even if you change cable lengths, that wouldn't affect the shifter. Those adjustmenst can be made underside of the car..However a stock three speed shifter will not work. You will have to fund a shifter from a G bOdy car that had the O/D. I went with a B & M Pro-Stcik with the 4 speed gate plate when I switched to the O/D transmission..
ok...just so I understand, ur saying a 3speed shifter wont work at all? or are you saying it wont work like a 4speed one would? Ive heard varying opinions on whether this setup will work or not. I expect it not to shift into low gear because it was not made for 4 selections. But it should go from park to reverse to neutral and to drive, right?
Why would you go through all that and not have your 1st gear??? YOu could use your existing 3 speed shifter and not be able to use the 1st gear...Doesn't make sense though, but you should be ok I think...
Oh I agree that its not logical, but my main reason for using the 2004r is mileage and less rpms on the engine at 75mph. I dont plan on racing the car so I would rarely use the shifter manually anyway. I plan to get a later model console plate that looks right for a 4speed trans, but its not in the budget and I dont want to have to change anything out that I dont need at this point. If I can find a 4speed console shifter then I will install it, but they are getting very rare these days. Havent seen any on ebay and I dont have any junk yards nearby. So I am stuck with what I got for now. I could go with the B&M but Im trying to keep it stock in appearance as much as possible.
 
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