can you supercharge a 3.8 v6?

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chevy2480

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No you cant. The Grand National motor is not the same as na 3.8. While they both share the same heads and block. The GN motor has different pistons, crank , harmonic balancer, flexplate also block would need to be drilled for oil return. An a true GN block at least the good ones would have 109 casting. If your block has a 109 casting then you can build that block into a gn spec bottom end. This block was only in 86-87 Gm cars no other year had the 109. The older turbo 3.8 also had different internals.
 

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1985cutlasssupreme said:
do you think its possible to get a grand national intake on my 3.8 since its the same motor then my car can be fuel injected if i do that right?


chevy2480 said:
No you cant. The Grand National motor is not the same as na 3.8. While they both share the same heads and block. The GN motor has different pistons, crank , harmonic balancer, flexplate also block would need to be drilled for oil return. An a true GN block at least the good ones would have 109 casting. If your block has a 109 casting then you can build that block into a gn spec bottom end. This block was only in 86-87 Gm cars no other year had the 109. The older turbo 3.8 also had different internals.

I'm confused, if the heads are the same why would'nt the intake fit? Here is a list of blocks/heads production casting numbers for the 231 http://www.gnttype.org/general/v6hist.html
 

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Wasn't there 109 castings used for some 4.1 applications and outside of 86/7?
 

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username said:
1985cutlasssupreme said:
do you think its possible to get a grand national intake on my 3.8 since its the same motor then my car can be fuel injected if i do that right?


chevy2480 said:
No you cant. The Grand National motor is not the same as na 3.8. While they both share the same heads and block. The GN motor has different pistons, crank , harmonic balancer, flexplate also block would need to be drilled for oil return. An a true GN block at least the good ones would have 109 casting. If your block has a 109 casting then you can build that block into a gn spec bottom end. This block was only in 86-87 Gm cars no other year had the 109. The older turbo 3.8 also had different internals.

I'm confused, if the heads are the same why would'nt the intake fit? Here is a list of blocks/heads production casting numbers for the 231 http://www.gnttype.org/general/v6hist.html
When i said no you cant i meant you simply cant bolt it on and expect it to work. It will bolt on but motor internals wont last.
 

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dogshit said:
Wasn't there 109 castings used for some 4.1 applications and outside of 86/7?
I have no idea,I'm inclined to think no because a 4.1 to my limited knowledge are 14 bolt pans where as 3.8 "109" casting is a 20 bolt pan
 

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I dont see why not
 

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dogshit said:
Wasn't there 109 castings used for some 4.1 applications and outside of 86/7?
109 blocks where only used in 86-87 model yrs in both turbo and non turbo and all 109 blocks where 3.8.
The 4.1 was a motor all on its own with a whole different casting #
now the heads on a 109 which where a 445 casting was used back to the late 70's early 80's i believe
 

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username said:
dogshit said:
Wasn't there 109 castings used for some 4.1 applications and outside of 86/7?
I have no idea,I'm inclined to think no because a 4.1 to my limited knowledge are 14 bolt pans where as 3.8 "109" casting is a 20 bolt pan
And you are 100% correct.
 

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1985cutlasssupreme said:
do u know of a website were i can find a c series like summitracing.com or sumthin
yes you can and there r tons of ways to do it...

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or you could turbo it... but there r many ways to supercharge it. you could use the kit from a v8, depending on which exact motor/block you r using and what its going in, run it at 6-8lbs should be hot
 
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