Longtube or shorties? Headers...which one's better?

[1984-monte-carlo-ss]

which header will create more torque and hp? will longtubes fit without fitment issues?

 

[jrm81bu]

Longtube. Mine fit fine.

 

[crowconcepts]

I'm currently running long tube Hooker knockoffs, big diameter(1.625). Fitment is fine, minor dents needed to clear passenger side control arm. The downside is slight loss of lowend torque, and the annoying issue of removal of the passenger side header to swap out my starter due to the 7qt oversized oil pan.
For a lowend grunt motor for street running I would recommend the mid length small tube headers. Also gives better starter clearance, easier install, and smaller dents to clear suspension.

 

[drogg1]

I'm currently running long tube Hooker knockoffs, big diameter(1.625). Fitment is fine, minor dents needed to clear passenger side control arm. The downside is slight loss of lowend torque, and the annoying issue of removal of the passenger side header to swap out my starter due to the 7qt oversized oil pan.
For a lowend grunt motor for street running I would recommend the mid length small tube headers. Also gives better starter clearance, easier install, and smaller dents to clear suspension.

I'm curious as to what you're referring to when you say there is a slight loss in low end torque. The length of the primaries or the diameter? As far as my understanding goes, the longer the primary/secondary(collector), the greater the torque with less horsepower, the shorter the primary/secondary, the greater the horsepower with less torque. As far as primary diameter goes, the larger the diameter due to lower exhaust velocity, the lower the torque with greater horsepower.

That's how I understand it anyways.

 

[crowconcepts]

In my setup, which is still a mismatched bunch, my small heads and huge exhaust , 3 1/2 oval, my long tube headers are too much breathing room. And shorter smaller headers would probably help my low end.

 

[Elky81]

I'm currently running long tube Hooker knockoffs, big diameter(1.625). Fitment is fine, minor dents needed to clear passenger side control arm. The downside is slight loss of lowend torque, and the annoying issue of removal of the passenger side header to swap out my starter due to the 7qt oversized oil pan.
For a lowend grunt motor for street running I would recommend the mid length small tube headers. Also gives better starter clearance, easier install, and smaller dents to clear suspension.

I'm curious as to what you're referring to when you say there is a slight loss in low end torque. The length of the primaries or the diameter? As far as my understanding goes, the longer the primary/secondary(collector), the greater the torque with less horsepower, the shorter the primary/secondary, the greater the horsepower with less torque. As far as primary diameter goes, the larger the diameter due to lower exhaust velocity, the lower the torque with greater horsepower.

That's how I understand it anyways.

X2

 

[1984-monte-carlo-ss]

how much am i gonna have to cut my exhaust to fit the longtubes...or should i just have my exhaust done with true duals?

 

[Intragration]

Go duals or don't bother with headers.

 

[Phoenyx]

Go duals or don't bother with headers.

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[Doug213xrj]

I have Hedman #68310 on my 81 Malibu, Fit great. I need remove the header when I service the factory stater. Never once blow out a gasket or had one start leaking.Im thinking about Hedman or Hooker shorty headers for my 78 El Camino, Just for easier installation and fitment with stock starter.

Doug