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Does anyone know exactly where the torx bolt hole is for the T50 bolt that fastens the front seat belt receiver is? The car was re-carpeted, and I cannot feel through the carpet for the hole. I don't want to blindly cut the carpet either. I am thinking I may have to go under the car, around the trans / drive shaft and try and find the hole, but I really hope not to - I circled the general area behind the driver seat anchor where I believe it bolts in. Does anyone know how far away it is from the seat anchor?

Also which side (passenger or driver) does the receiver with the black wire harness bolt into? And what does this harness plug into? I am assuming some sort of signal to say whether the seat has been belted, so I guess the driver side?

Also the seat belt has torn as pictured below. Is it possible to not replace the ratcheting mechanism and only the cloth belt?

Which rearview mirror adhesive do you use?


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If you have a pawl (pokey device), then go under the car and jab it through the hole in the driveshaft tunnel. Even if you can't get it through the carpet you should be able to see where it is poking the carpet. Then put a small slice in the carpet in that spot. Two slices perpendicular to each other will give you enough room to get the belt belt bolt through.

I thought they were a T55, but I could be wrong. They suck to get in because the body nut is a lock nut.
 
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Once upon a month or so ago I watched the girls do an interior replacement and your search and locate problem for the seat belts came up. In their case they were able to locate the hole from topside and what they did was to use the awl, or an ice pick, but they heated it up before punching it through the carpet. Why? Instead of tearing a rough hole and then having to go at it with an Olfa knife or box cutter, the heat caused the fibres around the hole to pull back and self seal, producing a smooth "finished" hole. I don't think it would matter if you elected to create the hole from below except that for the inner holes in the tunnel you might have to work around the drive shaft, meaning restricted maneuver room.

As for that damaged belt material. given that it is passing through the upper tab on the B Pillar, that pretty much puts the injury right in the middle of the belt. That in mind, while it might be possible to cut the belt and exise the damaged section, finding someone who would be willing to restitch the belt back together is quite another matter. That cute little label on the belt is there because the belt has to conform to established standards for safety. You try to have the belt repaired or reconstructed and there is no guarantee that the work will hold up and protect you in the event of a crash. On the other hand, if the belt is original and it fails as a consequence of a crash, you at least have grounds to go after the mfgr for cause, think law suit here. In addition, if you ever have to bring the car in for inspection and the inspector eyeballs your seatbelts, he/she/it can refuse/deny the certificate because the belt doesn't meet the stated standards for safety.




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paradigm said:
Does anyone know exactly where the torx bolt hole is for the T50 bolt that fastens the front seat belt receiver is? The car was re-carpeted, and I cannot feel through the carpet for the hole. I don't want to blindly cut the carpet either. I am thinking I may have to go under the car, around the trans / drive shaft and try and find the hole, but I really hope not to - I circled the general area behind the driver seat anchor where I believe it bolts in. Does anyone know how far away it is from the seat anchor?

Also which side (passenger or driver) does the receiver with the black wire harness bolt into? And what does this harness plug into? I am assuming some sort of signal to say whether the seat has been belted, so I guess the driver side?

Also the seat belt has torn as pictured below. Is it possible to not replace the ratcheting mechanism and only the cloth belt?

Which rearview mirror adhesive do you use?


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this is an El Camino

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They're part way up the side of the trans/driveshaft tunnel. From the pic 86LK posted, here they are circled in red.
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Thanks guys for the photos thats what I felt with my hands today when I reached from underneath around the driveshaft or exhaust, and its tight in there. Ill try to get something to stick through there, maybe a piece of stiff wire and look for where it pokes on the inside of the car and cut the carpet there.
 
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CopperNick said:
Once upon a month or so ago I watched the girls do an interior replacement and your search and locate problem for the seat belts came up. In their case they were able to locate the hole from topside and what they did was to use the awl, or an ice pick, but they heated it up before punching it through the carpet. Why? Instead of tearing a rough hole and then having to go at it with an Olfa knife or box cutter, the heat caused the fibres around the hole to pull back and self seal, producing a smooth "finished" hole. I don't think it would matter if you elected to create the hole from below except that for the inner holes in the tunnel you might have to work around the drive shaft, meaning restricted maneuver room.

As for that damaged belt material. given that it is passing through the upper tab on the B Pillar, that pretty much puts the injury right in the middle of the belt. That in mind, while it might be possible to cut the belt and exise the damaged section, finding someone who would be willing to restitch the belt back together is quite another matter. That cute little label on the belt is there because the belt has to conform to established standards for safety. You try to have the belt repaired or reconstructed and there is no guarantee that the work will hold up and protect you in the event of a crash. On the other hand, if the belt is original and it fails as a consequence of a crash, you at least have grounds to go after the mfgr for cause, think law suit here. In addition, if you ever have to bring the car in for inspection and the inspector eyeballs your seatbelts, he/she/it can refuse/deny the certificate because the belt doesn't meet the stated standards for safety.




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A few people have suggesting heating up an awl as you have on other sites, I may try that.

The belt will either need to be re-webbed professionally or replaced completely. Hopefully it isn't too difficult to remove the retractor part.
 
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