LOL......I occasionally drop into the Hot Air section of turbobuick.com..... every bit of this is true.86/87 Turbo buick's are tribal knowledge as it is and 84/85 are like that weird uncle of the tribal world. In Turbo Buick world, you don't just buy parts, you adopt them. You have to prove to the seller the parts are going to a good home; you don't own them, you are their caretaker.