Well then i guess its back to Torque Tech, they can set me up, but i have to buy there 3" tail pipes and use a reducer simpily because they do not stock a 2.5" tail pipe. The other thing they do that i don't like is they give you a 10 deg. bend for just before the mufflers so another clamp or weld, why is this bend not part of the head piece all in one. Not sure about Pypes, there's appears to be one piece?