CUTLASS '87 Cutlass Salon

Hurricane77

Not-quite-so-new-guy
Thread starter
Nov 11, 2020
19
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Ottawa, Canada
Bit more work done over the past week. Really still in the teardown phase and also seeing what I ended up with on the two parts cars.

The grey one is a 94. Pretty much a base model. Manual everything, no A/C. Looks like it was hit on the drivers side a bit. It's completely rotted. The frame is completely gone from the rear spring perch back. Trunk is virtually non-existent. The doors aren't great, but not terrible. Mine are in better shape. But the interesting thing for me is that since it's a base model, it doesn't have the wide chrome trim at the top near the scraper. I'm not a huge fan of chrome, so I'm considering trying to use them. the back seat is is good shape, but no front seats. I was thinking that this one might actually have had a 350 put in it, but after checking the casting numbers on the block, it's definitely a 305. I also tried to turn it over with a breaker bar and it's locked up solid. Other than the front header panel, the filler panel between the trunk and the rear window and a few trim pieces hear and there, there's not much here. I'll probably strip this one for a few parts fairly quick and scrap the rest. This thing was full of beer bottles and cans and a few other odds and ends...including an empty bottle of livestock penicillin! Given how long this thing has been sitting it that might come in handy. Based on the paperwork in the car, it's hasn't been on the road since around 2001. And based on some of the special edition cans, it's been accumulating junk since 2003. Good thing is there probably weren't too many mice in this one. Not with the number of shed snake skins I found in it

Special Edition can from 2004 Grey Cup (Canadian Superbowl), Special Edition can from 2003 Rugby World Cup, Livestock penicillin bottle and snake skin found among the bottles (one of many)
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The two tone blue one is an '85. No engine or trans. Seats are in pretty good shape though, better than mine. But it's a bench seat so...not too interesting to me. Fair bit of rust on the floor and rockers, rear quarter panel and various other places. I was thinking it might be better to restore this body rather than mine, but I honestly think it's a wash. Similar amounts of work it seems. I'll cut out good sections from this one where I can and weld it into mine. Pretty much going to have to build new floors regardless of which way I go. This one was had a bunch of speed parts installed in it and an air lift suspension (at least according to all the stickers on it) Previous owner pulled the engine and trans though. This was full of various stuff. A/C pieces, oil pan full of pushrods, oil pump, bolts galore, wiring harness etc. Mostly junk. There is an older radio receiver from the 50's which is kind of interesting. But this one is going to be my spare trim, bolts, visual reference for awhile.

Trunk (or lack thereof in the '84, Various parts in the '85, lower drivers door and rockers on the '85, bottles in the '84

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All in all, for $400, I think it was worth it just for the header panel and trim bits for converting mine from vinyl top to hardtop. Plus there's some good sheet metal in spots to fix the bad areas one mine. I'll return the seized 305 to the junk yard and get my $100 core charge back on the 5.3L. And in the end I'll get maybe a couple hundred bucks back for scrap value. Maybe a bit more if I wait a while. Scrap prices around here are terrible right now. $65 (Canadian) per metric tonne. So you might get $100 buck for each complete G-body, Less when you're missing a several hundred pounds of drivetrain.

Other than than, I did some work getting more of the exterior trim off my '87. Got the trunk lid off and pulled the main part of the dash off. SO overall, not a lot of progress this week on the main one. Still want to finish completely stripping the interior before I start cutting out the old section of floor and fabbing up replacement panels and patches.

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Hurricane77

Not-quite-so-new-guy
Thread starter
Nov 11, 2020
19
13
Ottawa, Canada
Bit more progress on the tear down.

Dash is completely out. Also got the rear bumper and related items off so was able to pull all the wiring out of the interior. This pretty much finished interior teardown. Also removed the opera windows.

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Decided I wanted to get an idea of what I'm dealing with on the rear quarter area where you could see cracking body filler. Also in cleaning out the trunk etc, you could see someone had screwed in a patch panel in the left side close to the wheel well. So I was curious as to just what I was dealing with in this area. After stripping the paint, I am getting a better idea of the history of this car.

Right over the wheel opening it's just STUFFED with body filler. You can also see someone had welded in a patch panel there as well but the wheel well has completely rusted through again on the forward section of the repaired area.

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The C-pillar area was showing quite a bit of rust in the area where it transitions to the trunk. While stripping you could see there was a lip there. exposing it to bare sheet metal, you can see the gold line was exposed. Following that it flows over the rear quarter into the trunk area, and then follows up the C-pillar and then goes forward maybe about an inch below the factory roof seam. There's another line on the B-pillar near the bottom of the window.

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All in all, looks like this thing had a rear quarter replacement at some point in its life. But the panels were brazed on instead of welded. Some of the rust issues seem to be as a results of that repair. But the rust over the wheel opening (and in the trunk, I suspect are unrelated to this replacement. Given the deeper rust areas in the section and onto the roof, I'm going to cut out what I can from one of the parts cars and weld it into place.

couple other problem spots seem to be the base of the A-pillars. While it's rusted and heavily pitted, it still solid in that area. I think all I'll be able to do there is get as much loose rust out of there get as much epoxy in there as I can and then use cavity wax.

Finally, in starting to cut out section of the floors, the body mount area in the drivers' footwell needs some rebuilding as well.

Definitely turning out to be more work than I originally expected, but I can't say I'm surprised. I was thinking to build a simple rotisserie to ease the body work, but I'm going to have to get the body mounts sorted first before I can consider that.
 
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