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As many of you know, Goodmark Industries was working on reproducing the OEM 4 speed Hurst Lightning rods a few years ago but in the end could not get licensing approval from Hurst. Through this process, Goodmark had a supplier lined up and a few PPAP (pre production) samples were produced. This is one of them. After comparing an old set of lightning rods I have to this new one it looks like most if not all the parts are interchangeable. I haven't disassembled either set to verify this but I can say that the new set is definitely a quality piece and the supplier did a fine job copying the design. The new rods actuate smoothly as they should and the design appears to be a direct G body replacement using OEM parts. The quality of the chrome is good as are the welds, removable balls etc. I might consider selling these on E bay but wanted to get your opinion on a reasonable sell price. As a reference, these 2 clapped out sets on E bay are priced as high as $2000. What do you guys think?

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Very nice looking piece, although...it's a repro part, yet since they didn't mass produce it, it's now a limited-edition, planned repro part. Interesting situation. I'd have no idea on what good value could be put on that unit since you can't even get THAT one anywhere else. The good thing going for it is the Hurst name is stamped on the rods. Otherwise, IMO, without the Hurst stamp, it'd be worth about $300. Obviously this should plop right into an 83 or 84 getting restored who wants NEW, but not necessarily NOS.

It's going to sound like I'm peeing on the parade with what I'm going to say next, but it's what I believe. Nothing personal.

Reproductions are-
1) made when the availability of original parts have pretty much dried up, or 2ndary market priced high enough to justify production of the new parts.
2) often-times inferior to some degree to the originals. On rare occasions, hidden upgrades actually improve upon OEM weaknesses, but that is rare.
3) hardly ever tested for fit, application, reliability, and longevity. OEM stuff usually costs a lot more because of increased testing and regulatory requirements and CYA reasons. It's $$. So repros tend to not do that. Reverse engineering is the key, and the hope is they can get it "close enough".
4) hardly ever offered with repair parts on assemblies. Buy the whole thing or you're SOL.
5) usually with the above considerations, repro parts are priced accordingly to be BELOW HTF original parts because, well, they're no longer HTF. Which is the precise main point of the repro.

Pretty chrome and no rust pits, chips, discoloration, etc., is nice to look at, but what testing other than to see if it bolts up was done to it? As long as the mounting bolts hold in my 84 H/O, I can hammer the f**k out of the original L/Rs and feel confident sh*t ain't going to break. (EDIT: save for the detent "pins". They can and do break, although I've never experienced it, and seem to be a weak area on OEM rods)

If I were in the market for this shifter, I'd be hesitant to pay as much as a complete, working and decent looking OEM unit. Which is my way of saying I believe the value is somewhere south of $1500. Where that is, I don't know.

But what do I know? Stick a price on it you want and if it sells, you'll know. If it sits for a while, then you're likely too high. Keep in mind too, there's always that ONE guy/gal out there....
 
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I have a great idea, I'll pay shipping and you ship me a set for ya know, R&D reasons as it would fit into the Cutlass well. I'll give a positive review, I promise!
For real though, that is very tempting. I've always wanted lightning rods. If I could use them properly for the 80E it would be awesome!
You're going to need paddle shifters so you don't take your hands off the wheel of that beast.
 
It's going to be worth what ever someone is willing pay. If it sells quick you didn't ask enough - if it doesn't sell it's too much. It's reproduction and will probably lose the purest market. I bought a wrecked Hurst Olds approximately 10 years ago that I parted and got $465.00 on Evil Bay
 
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Just an FYI on those shifters... from what I was told by another vendor on those aftermarket shifter samples the rods never had the Hurst stamping and Ive seen pictures with no logo.
That cam looks like an original with the patina on it like that as well and here's why...
I sold GBP an NOS shifter in 2011 for this endeavor with the promise that I could buy as many as I wanted for $300 a pop when they were done (we all know how well that guy holds onto promises....)
One sample was made, the supplier did the sheet metal but never did any of the internals, rods or nobs etc. so the NOS shifter I had wound up just having the rods and cam installed on aftermarket sheet metal supposedly as the first sample which looks like this one here...
I've seen a couple samples without the Hurst logo on them with the same story your telling come up on FB for sale in Ohio.
Now looking at those nobs they are definitely NOS ones from the 80's the way they're molded and cut, the second run in 2001 didn't have the flat top around the button as clean as the originals and the vendor never got to that point of making nobs otherwise you'd see them come up for sale.
Al Wroble did the run with the molder local to me, the run was about 5000 nobs so there are a ton out there still and he sells them on eBay.
I spoke with that company last year to get some molded in other colors, I have the original prints and such too.
MOQ is 5,000 and he told me to just talk to Al since they molded a TON for him.
The other part of the aftermarket samples without the logo and aftermarket internals is they didn't operate up to par like the original and couldn't pass QC with Hurst who was to grant the license from what I was told and they struggled with quality.
Hurst didn't want their name on it...
Me thinks that it my NOS shifter with aftermarket sheet metal and some attaching off the shelf parts like spring and bolt...
Those rods and nobs, internals and cam are NOS, the rest is aftermarket would be my guess since they function very nicely.
I'd possibly buy it back if you still have it...
 
I got a ton of those original, NOS Dakaware knobs in bulk still in the Davies Molding boxes. They were made right there in Chicago. Sold enough of them to cover my original investment. Got a copy of the original specification drawings too, in case I need to order more. Just have to order by part number. They got a bit sloppy in their finishing process later on, but many are nice enough. With that said, I also have a set of NOS HURST knobs (sold individually in the blister pack) that pretty much backs up the laziness in their replacement finishing process.

Not only did they make knobs, they made those old, phenolic ash trays, too.

Got a slew of original style, early 70s dual gate knobs, too. Just can't remember what I did with those things. I could probably make a mint selling off those. If I can ever find them.
 
Can one of you guys just come up with a Lightening Rods or a Hurst Dual Gate 3 speed shifter for my Salon, on the cheap?? I don't have $1500 for a shifter, but really want to have the "Hurst Equipped" badges for my Olds. I want to add the Hurst floor mats, dash plaque, and fender badges, but I gotta have the dang shifter!! 🤷‍♂️
 
I think I need a 3 speed set for the 78 "10th Anniversary" Hurst I am building, but I ain't even remotely trying to drop that kind of coin on a shifter.
are you thinking LR or DG? silver paint with black strips aka '68 or "79? bitching idea
 
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