Brakes: They Don't Work

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RustRocket

Master Mechanic
Sep 8, 2014
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Hello all, I've been chasing some braking gremlins for nine months now, and it's getting pretty ridiculous. The car has a brand new master cylinder, vacuum booster, front calipers, pads, rotors, and the rubber brake line that directly connects to the caliper. The master cylinder has been bench bled three times(this afternoon most recently), and the entire system has been bled four times, plus one gravity bleed. The pedal has no resistance, there is no feeling of pressure, nothing at all. However, the brakes do work. Albeit the car has only moved 12 inches, but it stopped good for those back and forth movements. I see no visible leaks, the system is sealed, no drips, nothing. Yet they still feel terrible. What could the problem possible be? This is starting to get quite ridiculous, I just need some help very badly. Any help is appreciated.
 
The back brakes give you the brake pedal height. If the shoes were backed right off that could give you no pedal. There is a 10 lb residual valve in the proportional valve.That residual pressure prevents the springs from pulling the shoes back. when you stop applying the brakes If that valve is not working and the shoes are back off that could be your problem
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