GM G80 Gov-Loc Failure

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Chevyman85

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This last weekend I took my stock G80 Gov-Loc unit out of my '98 Silverado. The unit was failing to lock-up. I assumed that the springs had failed and I pulled it out. I swaped it out with an Eaton LS Carrier... I could not be happier with the swap. But upon further inspection the stock unit appears to be fine. I have had experience with them before but they have always been completly destroyed. This one looks good just doesn't lock up? Anyone have any related stories? I know GM used these units in anyhing with 8.5" rears on up.
 
GM whale sprem additive might have cured that, or maybe the clutches were worn just enough to not work properly. A friend of mines 04 is finicky like that, (10.5 rear), clutches are getting to the point where they need to be replaced, but the additive helped it for a short while.
 
"GM whale sprem additive might have cured that, or maybe the clutches were worn just enough to not work properly. A friend of mines 04 is finicky like that, (10.5 rear), clutches are getting to the point where they need to be replaced, but the additive helped it for a short while."

Nope, if it is a gov lok there are no clutches. It is not a "real" posi.

There is a small counter weight that spins inside, when one wheel spins faster is locks and locks hard. To work one wheel has to have lost traction already, so they are no good for racing and they tend to blow apart in high hp or traction situations.

Fluid will help a cone or disc type posi.
 


So I am assuming that these are what is considered a gov lock pictured is the 9.5, 10.5, and a newer 11.5 all of which have a "governor" and all of which have clutch packs. Here's GM's explanation of it.

When the wheel-to-wheel speed difference is 100 RPM or more, the flyweights of the governor will fling out and one of them will contact an edge of the latching bracket. This happens because the left cam side gear and cam plate are rotating at a speed different, either slower or faster, than that of the ring gear and differential case assembly. The cam plate has teeth on its outer diameter surface in mesh with teeth on the shaft of the governor.

As the side gear rotates at a speed different than that of the differential case, the shaft of the governor rotates with enough speed to force the flyweights outward against spring tension. One of the flyweights catches its edge on the closest edge of the latching bracket, which is stationary in the differential case. This latching process triggers a chain of events.

When the governor latches, it stops rotating. A small friction clutch inside the governor allows rotation, with resistance, of the governor shaft while one flyweight is held to the differential case through the latching bracket. The purpose of the governor's latching action is to slow the rotation of the cam plate as compared to the cam side gear. This will cause the cam plate to move out of its detent position.

The cam plate normally is held in its detent position by a small wave spring and detent humps resting in matching notches of the cam side gear. At this point, the ramps of the cam plate ride up on the ramps of the cam side gear, and the cam plate compresses the left clutch pack with a self-energizing action.

As the left clutch pack is compressed, it pushes the cam plate and cam side gear slightly toward the right side of the differential case. This movement of the cam side gear pushes the thrust block which compresses the right-hand side gear clutch pack.

At this point, the force of the self-energizing clutches and the side gear separating force combine to hold the side gears to the differential case in the locking stage.

The entire locking process occurs in less than 1 second. The process works with either the left or right wheel spinning, due to the design of the governor and cam mechanism. A torque reversal of any kind will unlatch the governor, causing the cam plate to ride back down to its detent position. Cornering or deceleration during a transmission shift will cause a torque reversal of this type. The differential unit returns to its limited-slip function.

The self-energizing process would not occur if it were not for the action of one of the left clutch discs. This energizing disc provides the holding force of the ramping action to occur. It is the only disc which is splined to the cam plate itself. The other splined discs fit on the cam side gear.

If the rotating speed of the ring gear and differential case assembly is high enough, the latching bracket will pivot due to centrifugal force. This will move the flyweights so that no locking is permitted. During vehicle driving, this happens at approximately 32 km/h (20 mph) and continues at faster speeds.

When comparing the effectiveness of the locking differential, in terms of percent-of-grade capability to open and limited-slip units, the locking differential has nearly 3 times the potential of the limited-slip unit under the same conditions.
 
yeah, that's the new truck system. it's a limited slip with a locker. try not to use the locker!! it is rather weak. the usual (older and small trucks) gov-lock is a complete POS. it's an open diff with a locker and you can blow the rear with both wheels off the ground!! the locker on the new system isn't much better, but if it goes, i don't THINK it will blow the whole rear.
 
megaladon6 said:
yeah, that's the new truck system. it's a limited slip with a locker. try not to use the locker!! it is rather weak. the usual (older and small trucks) gov-lock is a complete POS. it's an open diff with a locker and you can blow the rear with both wheels off the ground!! the locker on the new system isn't much better, but if it goes, i don't THINK it will blow the whole rear.

It isn't a limited slip, its is either open or locked.
 
actually the trucks had both. the main diff is an LSD but it has a gov-loc added in for full lock when necessary
 
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