good stall suggestions????

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running a 430hp sbc 350 with a 3000-7200 cam wondering who makes a good stall that wont blow up on me... running a th350 trans and a 3.73 rear gear.... i hear b&m stalls come apart under pressure... anyone got a good suggestion on the not so expensive side?
 
I ran a b&m for 10 yrs with no problems. But i currently run a ATI. You need a stall in the 28-3200 range. Remember you get what you pay for.
 
Sorry I could be wrong but I thought the rule of thumb was that you should always go with a stall speed that is 300-500 rpm higher than where your cam starts making power? I would have recommended 3300-3500 stall speed, but I'm always looking to learn so let me know if I am wrong.
 
84cutspreme said:
Sorry I could be wrong but I thought the rule of thumb was that you should always go with a stall speed that is 300-500 rpm higher than where your cam starts making power? I would have recommended 3300-3500 stall speed, but I'm always looking to learn so let me know if I am wrong.
You would be right but with all my convert i have found that after time they become looser. So i tested my theory with my current convert. Ordered one that came in right at same time as cam after time it got loose now it stalls 3-400 rpm higher. Car just got faster with time. Others i am sure will say im nuts but its working for me. If it becomes to loose you will be hurting yourself later.
 
I have a new redneck performance 3000 stall for th350 I'm going to take out at some point in the near future. 100$ would help it come out faster if you want it. Are you located near Houston? if you need it shipped might as well go with a company like summit or jegs it'd be expensive to ship that thing.
 
84cutspreme said:
Sorry I could be wrong but I thought the rule of thumb was that you should always go with a stall speed that is 300-500 rpm higher than where your cam starts making power? I would have recommended 3300-3500 stall speed, but I'm always looking to learn so let me know if I am wrong.

no. because it will flash 200-500 rpms higher in the first place, so then you're way out of the optimum torque range if you flash the converter off the light tree or stop light if your stall speed is already over your torque curve.
 
chevy2480 said:
You would be right but with all my convert i have found that after time they become looser. So i tested my theory with my current convert. Ordered one that came in right at same time as cam after time it got loose now it stalls 3-400 rpm higher. Car just got faster with time. Others i am sure will say im nuts but its working for me. If it becomes to loose you will be hurting yourself later.

unless you used the exact same converter, each manufacturer may rate their stall speed at a different weight/power etc in the car. Ask them before buying to find out what the stall will be closer to in your application :idea:
 
custom442 said:
chevy2480 said:
You would be right but with all my convert i have found that after time they become looser. So i tested my theory with my current convert. Ordered one that came in right at same time as cam after time it got loose now it stalls 3-400 rpm higher. Car just got faster with time. Others i am sure will say im nuts but its working for me. If it becomes to loose you will be hurting yourself later.

unless you used the exact same converter, each manufacturer may rate their stall speed at a different weight/power etc in the car. Ask them before buying to find out what the stall will be closer to in your application :idea:


i agree 100% with this. need to know more about the rest of the car. if its over 3000-3200 lbs (which if its not totally gutted it is) with your 3.73, you'll probably get about what the converter is rated for. heavier cars, taller rear gears and stickier tires along with more power will make the converter stall higher. on the other side, numerically higher gears, lighter car and less torque on a smaller tire will not stall as high. really want stall speed right around peak torque, but sometimes its not too drivable. thats where you may have to compromise.

also, not really part of the op, but 3.73s a little tall for a cam that big? by no means am i knocking your combo, but it would probably run a lot harder with a 4.30 or 4.56.

i would go with a tci super street fighter. its advertised to stall at 3500+. i ran a streetfighter in my car with a stall rating of 3000, and felt that it was too tight. also ran a fairly high revving small block, 3450 lbs and 4.11 rear gear on a 275 drag radial.
 
I am currently running a Precision Industries Vigilante converter and love it. Before this I ran a TCI Super StreetFighter, I also liked that converter, but it couldn't hold the power and it ended up breaking all to sh*t inside. I think the TCI SSF's are a good converter, but everthing has it's limits. The TCI SSF flashed at around 3700 for me, then went to the Vigilante and it flashes at 4000 and leaves like a beast. Both of these converters were a 10" converter with the TCC still functioning. The Vigilante was a bit higher priced, but definately worth it at $775. I have thrown everything my engine's got at it and it's handled it without breaking a sweat. Most quality converter manufacturers will ask you tons of questions about your set-up to get you the right one, and most will offer a free restall if you want it changed a bit. Just be honest with them on your set-up and they will hook you up with the right converter for your application and you won't be disappointed. Good luck.
 
BTW what are the duration numbers on your cam and is it a solid or hydraulic and roller or non?
 
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