Having G-body withdrawals!

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IhaveNoPantsOn

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Feb 22, 2009
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Well, it's been a little over 3 weeks since my GP just up and died on me, and I am having major withdrawals! Basically, the story goes like this:
Three weeks ago, Monday, I was on my way to work, when my 87 GP quit on me. I was headed up a pretty steep hill, and it just kept slowing down. I had the pedal to the floor, and it just kept bogging down, and finally died. I got a ride the rest of the way to work, and left the car there for a few hours, until my boss could go get it with the tow truck. He towed it to the shop, and it has sat in the back of the lot since. I had some minor idle issues, and a code for a TPS for quite a while. I changed the TPS about a month prior, and was still having some issues. I just kept kind of blindly guessing and making minor adjustments, so I am pretty sure it is a carb-based problem.
So, why didn't I just stay after work a few nights, and try to see if I could find out what was wrong? Well, first, my boss isn't exactly the charitable type, and generally doesn't do favors, so I didn't even ask if I could. Secondly, my mother-in-law had a 97 S10 that her father gave her a couple years ago, that she needed me to drive up from her (now ex-) boyfriend's house, since it was a 5-speed. I was pretty much given the truck, and told to pay her when I could afford it. Thirdly, the GP has had it's fair share of problems over the past 5 years I have owned it. No major engine problems, or anything that prevented me from driving it daily. It didn't really bother me, since it was mostly routine parts like ignition components, that wear out over time. The car was almost completely original when I bought it, and I knew after a while, I would need to start replacing things. That was fine with me...not so much with the wife. She sees it as very unreliable. Due in part to the fact that she wants to move by the end of the year (not just a city or town away, but cross-country), and the fact that I don't have anywhere to store the car, on top of pretty much getting a reliable truck for no more than registration fees and tax, it really made no sense to fix it, or even keep it (to her, anyways).
For now, my boss is letting me keep it at work. But, I am really hoping to have a new job by the end of the month, and I doubt he will let me keep it there if I don't work there. At this point, I can't see myself selling it. It only runs until it warms up, then it dies. It looks like complete sh*t. The body is 12903856827934 different colors of grey and silver, with some rust, and a fair amount of dents and dings. The interior is nice, aside from a sagging headliner, and dirty driver's seat.(I am a mechanic...)So, I doubt I would get very much for it. I had planned on getting the carb rebuilt, but all this happened before I had the chance.
Right now, my hopes are to get it towed to a carb shop, get the carb rebuilt, and get it running right. Get a new, much better paying job, to be able to afford to do the bodywork and paint it badly needs, and keep it as a summer cruiser. As far as moving goes, I'll get the ****ing thing shipped there if I have to, I don't care. I really do not want to get rid of it. (I can dream, can't I?)
Sorry for the rant. I have just been running all of this through my head for the past few weeks, and needed to let it out somehow. The lack of power is killing me. I know the stock 305 isn't a super powerful engine, but driving a 4-banger truck is far far worse. Hey, at least it's a 5-speed. Anyways, I am done...for now. Hopefully I will have a build thread or some other kind of progress to post, if and when I get this turd back in working order. Wish me luck!
 
Hey nopants, it may be a shot in the dark but i had an 85 camaro once that had the same symptom. It would run fine when cold but after she warmed up i could barely get it to move. The more gas i gave the slower it went on the high way. It ended up being a clogged catalytic converter. If you have one that may be the problem, one way to check is look at it after running it for a while and the exhaust will smell like rotten eggs or sulfur and the converter will get red hot almost glowing. Just my thought from past experiences.
 
Sounds like cat issues .

I know you love your car But If you are moving any where west of the Mississippi there r way nice car that way . You will never replace this one but if have to sell know you may get a nice solid ride later .

Good luck
 
Well, I know it can't be converter issues, since I'm not running any. I know I can probably find a cleaner car later on down the line, but I'm unnaturally attached to this car. It was my first car. It has the exact same birthday as me (build date is 10/86, my birthday is 10/15/86) So, I just feel a weird connection to it. At this point, the whole moving thing is pretty much just talk, and no real plans are being made. So, until I am threatened with divorce, I will find a way to hang on to the car (and maybe then, still...)
 
Fuel Pump possibly.

I had an 84 Buick Lesabre with a 307 that did the same thing.
It was the fuel pump.

When the condition happens, is fuel still getting to the carb? Pull the hose and check it when it happens.
 
Fuel filter is almost brand new, and the entire ignition system, minus the distributor is only about a year old. It still starts and runs fine, until it warms up, and drops down to regular idle speed, so I assume it's getting enough fuel. I think I probably just turned an adjustment screw too far the wrong way when I was trying to get it running right after doing the TPS. I want to get the carb rebuilt anyways, seeing as it has 114k miles on it, and has never been overhauled. Anyone know an average price a shop would charge to rebuild a feedback Qjet?
 
Bonnewagon said:
http://www.rockauto.com/catalog/x,carcode,1255430,parttype,5904 Looks like about $350 from RockAuto. If you work in a shop can't you get a jobber discount from your parts suppliers? Normally I'd advise doing it yourself but those computer carbs are a nightmare, best left to a pro.
I could probably get a discount on a rebuild kit, but, like I said before, my boss is kind of a dick, and I'm not sure if he would order it for me. Plus, I definitely don't have the time or space to do a rebuild right now. When I can afford it, I think I'm just gonna take the carb off, bring it to a shop to get it rebuilt, then put it back on and hope for the best. Or, just get it towed to a carb shop, and have them do everything, and make sure nothing else is wrong with the engine. I know it sounds kind of ironic that I'm a mechanic, and I don't want to work on my own car, but at this point, I really don't give a sh*t. I work on other people's cars all day, for a boss I'm getting sick of, so the last thing I want to do on my free time is work on cars! Plus, I'd rather just pay someone who really knows what they are doing, rather than screw something up or break something.
Anyways, on a side note, I probably won't be working at this shop much longer. I was looking online for a new job, and found a job posting for my job. So, he is planning on sh*t-canning me some time soon. We actually had 3 applicants come in today with resumes. My boss wasn't there, but his wife was. She didn't say anything to me, but she did avoid me for the rest of the day. Awkward!
 
if it has to do with warming up and dieing, i'd think to check the choke, but i never really understood the CCCs andways.

DO NOT SELL THAT CAR. if you love the car as much as you say, then you will regret getting rid of it forever.
 
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