Anybody have a reference for this woman designed for allegation. Auto makers have targeted specific trim and features for women but this is the first I heard of them designing a pickup truck for women.....not saying it can't be true just would like to peruse the damning information myself. Never heard that about the Ranchero......I really like my ELKY.....but designed for women hummmmm.Not a misogynist but damn.....
maybe a lil offtopic?
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Actually It seems to have started with Ford.....The story of the utility truck or coupé utility– the ute – began in 1932, when a letter was received by Ford Australia’s plant at Geelong, Victoria. It was written by a farmer’s wife who’d had enough of riding to church in the farm truck and arriving in saturated clothing;
‘Why don’t you build people like us a vehicle to go to church in on a Sunday, and which can carry our pigs to market on Mondays?’ her letter asked.
Bank managers at the time would lend money to farmers to buy a farm truck, but not a passenger car, hence the plea from one very fed up woman!
It arrived on the desk of managing director Hubert French who, instead of dictating a polite dismissal, passed the letter on to sales manager Scott Inglis.
1934 ute brochure. He in turn showed it to plant superintendent Slim Westman, and the two of them took it to Ford Australia’s design department, which in 1932 consisted of one man…
Lewis Thornet Bandt was 22 years old and had already been singled out for bigger things with Ford.
Interviewed shortly before his death in 1987, Bandt recalled the moment when Westman and Inglis came to him with the letter.
The brochure for the first utility"
The whole thing had already started to germinate," said Bandt.
"Westman quite rightly reckoned that if we cut down a car and put a tray on the back, the whole thing would tear in half once there was weight in the back.
"I told him I would design it with a frame that came from the very back pillar, through to the central pillars, near the doors. I would arrange for another pillar to further strengthen that weak point where the cabin and tray joined. I said to Westman `Boss, them pigs are going to have a luxury ride around the city of Geelong!’ "
Bandt began by sketching the coupé utility on a 10 metre blackboard, depicting a front view as well as side and rear elevations. When they were seen by Westman some weeks later, he told Bandt to build two prototypes.
1934 ute restored. On a wheelbase of 112 inches, with a rear tray that was 5ft 5ins long and had a payload of 1200 pounds, they were the first vehicles to also offer a comfortable all-weather cabin.
On first sight of the prototypes, Scott Inglis authorised a startup production run of 500 vehicles. Westman asked for – and got - £10,000 for tooling, and the first coupé utilities rolled off the Geelong assembly line in 1934.
Born out of a woman’s frustration with car designs of the day, the enclosed cab utility was initially regarded as a luxury. But the `ute’ was quickly accepted as a necessity of bush life, and won recognition around the world as the ideal farmer’s or tradesman’s vehicle.
All of this was found on the Interweb. The EL Camino was a by-product of this. But not entirely a result of the need for a woman's car, In 1959 .
‘Why don’t you build people like us a vehicle to go to church in on a Sunday, and which can carry our pigs to market on Mondays?’ her letter asked.
Bank managers at the time would lend money to farmers to buy a farm truck, but not a passenger car, hence the plea from one very fed up woman!
It arrived on the desk of managing director Hubert French who, instead of dictating a polite dismissal, passed the letter on to sales manager Scott Inglis.
1934 ute brochure. He in turn showed it to plant superintendent Slim Westman, and the two of them took it to Ford Australia’s design department, which in 1932 consisted of one man…
Lewis Thornet Bandt was 22 years old and had already been singled out for bigger things with Ford.
Interviewed shortly before his death in 1987, Bandt recalled the moment when Westman and Inglis came to him with the letter.
The brochure for the first utility"
The whole thing had already started to germinate," said Bandt.
"Westman quite rightly reckoned that if we cut down a car and put a tray on the back, the whole thing would tear in half once there was weight in the back.
"I told him I would design it with a frame that came from the very back pillar, through to the central pillars, near the doors. I would arrange for another pillar to further strengthen that weak point where the cabin and tray joined. I said to Westman `Boss, them pigs are going to have a luxury ride around the city of Geelong!’ "
Bandt began by sketching the coupé utility on a 10 metre blackboard, depicting a front view as well as side and rear elevations. When they were seen by Westman some weeks later, he told Bandt to build two prototypes.
1934 ute restored. On a wheelbase of 112 inches, with a rear tray that was 5ft 5ins long and had a payload of 1200 pounds, they were the first vehicles to also offer a comfortable all-weather cabin.
On first sight of the prototypes, Scott Inglis authorised a startup production run of 500 vehicles. Westman asked for – and got - £10,000 for tooling, and the first coupé utilities rolled off the Geelong assembly line in 1934.
Born out of a woman’s frustration with car designs of the day, the enclosed cab utility was initially regarded as a luxury. But the `ute’ was quickly accepted as a necessity of bush life, and won recognition around the world as the ideal farmer’s or tradesman’s vehicle.
All of this was found on the Interweb. The EL Camino was a by-product of this. But not entirely a result of the need for a woman's car, In 1959 .
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tc1959 said:
Hey thanks for the info, thats kinda what I was getting at, the concept of the camino and ranchero were both to give a more comfortable ride for women, but that was more true for the first two years before they stopped production, after that I dont think any women were really considering getting a ride with a big block and all that, still interesting to think about tho, I get alot more compliments from women saying Caminos were their childhood favorite hahaha
Same as me, I had had a previous project which was a 64 impala, happened to be a hardcore victim of texas floods and so after a year and a half and 3000 bones thrown away I sold it for 150$. I wanted a new project but at the time I was living with my parents and they had a say in what I got. I couldnt get anything pre-90's and it had to be economical, so I compromised with my parents and we agreed a camino would be cheap enough to fix up, provide a utility purpose, and was not too old if I were to get a 5th gen (it also helps that it takes me less time to walk to work than it does to drive). I also disliked them for awhile, they were just a foreign concept to me, but I think they are really just the ultimate two door if there ever was one, and we all know its two doors or no doors... So I looked for about a year and a half dilligently everyday for one until I found my current one, it ran good the guy was down to earth and we got it with some money my grandpa left behind for me. As beat up as it is (only aesthetically, body is perfecto) I get tons of looks and I just really love the smell of an old interior and crazy-smellin exhaust! thanks for all the opinions thus far guys, big ups on mino projects!1979ratrod said:
When I was younger I always wanted to go to car shows in my area. I always loved to see all the old classic cars people had. I was walking around and my mom's ex boyfriend said what about an El Camino for your first car. At first I was like okay. Then after thinking for a little I began to start liking them. Now I love them a lot (all years).
Now being older and having a fixed up one I go to different car shows in my area were people always have mustangs (all years), camaros (all years) Chevelles, chargers, Nova all the time. People do not really have El Camino's and I am usually the only guy who has one. It is like a unique car I mean truck o I mean cruck (LOL) that is duel purpose. Like other have said I can use it to haul stuff and to drive/race as a car. For me I am always the odd ball. All my friends like the mustangs, camaros, and me it is the El Camino. It is like the car/truck that everyone likes or hate. It is different and unique that makes me like it.
Now being older and having a fixed up one I go to different car shows in my area were people always have mustangs (all years), camaros (all years) Chevelles, chargers, Nova all the time. People do not really have El Camino's and I am usually the only guy who has one. It is like a unique car I mean truck o I mean cruck (LOL) that is duel purpose. Like other have said I can use it to haul stuff and to drive/race as a car. For me I am always the odd ball. All my friends like the mustangs, camaros, and me it is the El Camino. It is like the car/truck that everyone likes or hate. It is different and unique that makes me like it.
Gotcha! The initial concept was influenced by a woman, I thought you meant the later ELKY's were designed by GM Styling for women buyers.Interesting background but most women I know don't like them to drive beings there is not a ton of room for all of their s**t. Most women you could lose the Chinese Army in their car.Of course in all fairness I have seen guys do the same, but not to the same extent. I injected a Y Chromosome last oil change....go to go! 😀
Neuron said:
much agreeing here, gay guys most of all, quote unquote the elco is "hideous" to them, I think its a nice utility car for a woman but its really the weight distribution that sells it for me, you can skid around pseudo-drift, peel out burn donuts all that sh*t so easy in an elco, its just raw, and the feeling when you hitm a hundred or so on the interstate just feels like flying, like the back end is lifting up, its killer
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