true, but sometimes it's the "in betweens" that create some of the problems... I work @ advance, and can't tell you how many times I see plugs get dropped(both employees and customers), boxes come in crushed, and how many people that, no matter how many times you curse them out, still tend to turn the carb boxes on their side or turn it upside down trying to see something on the box..... :?mkube396 said:its not summit and jegs to blame it is the manufacturer.