super orginal 1983 hurst olds

[packrat666]

Looked at this 1983 hurst olds today. Super original car just don't have room for another g body right now. If you are looking for it nice and all original down to the tires. Even has the lightening rod shifter.

http://tampa.craigslist.org/hil/cto/4057071151.html

 

[69hurstolds]

Tires look like a lot of tread left to have 60K miles on them. Eagle GTs barely lasted 30-35K miles if you were lucky. I'd say it's on AT LEAST its second set. Maybe 3rd. Unless they pulled the tires/wheels early and put them up in storage while running some aftermarket stuff all those years. Aftermarket cruise control, likely to replace the missing original unit, and it has an updated newer style, light duty a/c compressor.

It's not a bad looking car, but it looks like it's been sitting outside for a while noting the rust under the hood. Might want to check for rust up underneath. And the remark about low options being most sought after- bunk. That's market hope/hype. Actually the opposite is true unless it was a 60s factory drag version, etc.

To ME, it looks rather complete and pretty straight, but will need an entire going through to bring it up to worthy status. $8k is a tad much for one that's going to need about at least that or more to get restored.

Unless he was going to be willing to come down some off that price, I'd pass on that if I were looking. There's better examples out there for not that much more $$. JMO.

 

[joesregalproject]

But that's the thing though, even it if has had the tires and two or 3 other parts replaced, why would you want to restore it and take away the fact that it is nearly 100% original? This guy is more honest than most, I see guys at cruises advertising their cars as "all original" when the car has been repainted. For having no resto-work done, it is in 10X better shape than most other 25+ year old cars.

 

[pontiacgp]

if he "believes" those are the original tires then he can only believe that the odometer hasn't turned over. Unless an add is from the original owner then the seller is only assuming

 

[joesregalproject]

^^^^^^^^^^
This is true. Assume makes an *ss of u and me. I guess I just have a soft spot for unrestored cars. The car I've grown up around is a 1 owner, all-original, unrestored, 1964 Pontiac GTO pillar car with the 389 and Tri-Power, 2 speed automatic, and 3.9-something rear gears with posi.

 

[69hurstolds]

But that's the thing though, even it if has had the tires and two or 3 other parts replaced, why would you want to restore it and take away the fact that it is nearly 100% original? This guy is more honest than most, I see guys at cruises advertising their cars as "all original" when the car has been repainted. For having no resto-work done, it is in 10X better shape than most other 25+ year old cars.

Give me the name of anyone that would buy this car and leave it just as is. Maybe it is in good shape compared to other 25+ year old cars, but it's also not in as great a shape as some other restorations or partial restos I've seen for just a few grand more that look 10X better than this example. I'm not saying there's anything wrong with the car, per se, but the value isn't there (I'm only talking for me) because 1) it isn't 100% original, and 2) while it would/should be an easy resto with minimal body work, the car still needs some serious TLC. If I were going to want to get a car to do a resto with, this car would be a great place to start.

But I've seriously never seen anyone willing to spend $8K on a G-body Hurst/Olds driver. If it were at $4500 or so, that would likely be a different story. But if there are people willing to pay 8K for that, just think what they'd pay for one already restored? I think I'd save up a few more grand and likely less time and total $$ investment it would take to restore that one and buy one already done or one with a lot less miles and in better shape. Considering you'll be spending another $5K (conservatively) for paint/decals just to get the outside looking decent, you're already 13K into it before doing anything else. What's up under the car? Rust? Deteriorated body mounts? Hey, it's not my money but when buying used, you need to assess your future aspirations with the vehicle as well as what you want. Gotta keep it real, as they say. Again, this is just my opinion so it doesn't mean a thing.

 

[joesregalproject]

But that's the thing though, even it if has had the tires and two or 3 other parts replaced, why would you want to restore it and take away the fact that it is nearly 100% original? This guy is more honest than most, I see guys at cruises advertising their cars as "all original" when the car has been repainted. For having no resto-work done, it is in 10X better shape than most other 25+ year old cars.

Give me the name of anyone that would buy this car and leave it just as is. Maybe it is in good shape compared to other 25+ year old cars, but it's also not in as great a shape as some other restorations or partial restos I've seen for just a few grand more that look 10X better than this example. I'm not saying there's anything wrong with the car, per se, but the value isn't there (I'm only talking for me) because 1) it isn't 100% original, and 2) while it would/should be an easy resto with minimal body work, the car still needs some serious TLC. If I were going to want to get a car to do a resto with, this car would be a great place to start.

But I've seriously never seen anyone willing to spend $8K on a G-body Hurst/Olds driver. If it were at $4500 or so, that would likely be a different story. But if there are people willing to pay 8K for that, just think what they'd pay for one already restored? I think I'd save up a few more grand and likely less time and total $$ investment it would take to restore that one and buy one already done or one with a lot less miles and in better shape. Considering you'll be spending another $5K (conservatively) for paint/decals just to get the outside looking decent, you're already 13K into it before doing anything else. What's up under the car? Rust? Deteriorated body mounts? Hey, it's not my money but when buying used, you need to assess your future aspirations with the vehicle as well as what you want. Gotta keep it real, as they say. Again, this is just my opinion so it doesn't mean a thing.

Me. I would buy it, thoroughly polish it and clean it, and leave it as is. And no sh*t, of course there are Restos that look better; this car isn't a resto! And I'm judging by what I can see from the pictures, I'm not making assumptions. If there were rust under the car, or bad body mounts, which I would look for before buying the car, I would not purchase it. But judging by the pictures and the OP's testimonial, it is a nice, driver quality, nearly 100% original, unrestored car. I have an appriciation for the fact that the car still bears almost all the same parts that it did the day it was made, down to the paint.

 

[78 salon]

Guessing 160,000, odometer #s are off for being 60k. Not to say a car can't have high mileage and be kept in good condition at the same time. Still not 8k worth.