V6 in a 65 ?

[dan2286]

forgot to say that I have a genuine W31 engine sitting on a cradle that would love to nest in this car ! ;-)

Dan

That engine is worthless. Ill take it off of your hands for $50 bucks. :wink: :wink: :wink: :wink: :wink:

 

[midwestls]

yep, what Dan said :lol:

 

[joe_padavano]

thank joe & all the others ....

the man says it has 255 HP and it is supercharged ????????????

the link says the 225 V6 had 155 HP no power adder at all

ill have to see !

The only supercharged (as opposed to turbocharged) Buick V6 is the L67 motor from the 1990s. Used only in transverse FWD applications but can be swapped into RWD cars with an S-10 bellhousing.

 

[85 Cutlass Brougham]

JOE IS 100% CORRECT. If memory serves me right, it was an aluminum block.

I'm afraid memory is the second thing to go, and I can't remember the first... :wink:

You are thinking of the aluminum block 215 cu in V8, used in the 1961-1963 Buick, Olds, and Pontiac compacts. The 215 is actually the same architecture (bore spacing, head design, front cover) as the Buick V6, but the V6 was always cast iron. The V6 was also released in 1961 (in 198 cu in size) but only offered in the Buicks for 1961-63. For 64-65 it grew to 225 cu in and was also offered in the Olds (still cast iron). As noted previously, the V6 design and tooling was sold to AMC for use in Jeeps in the 1960s then bought back by GM in 1975 after Oil Embargo #1.

The earlier Buick V6 was not the same as the later one. The early one was based on the old Buick nailhead (or nail valve depending on who you ask) V8 engine, while the later V6 was based on the newer Buick V8 which came out in 1967 or 68. Also, it was not AMC that the old V6 was sold to, it was Kaiser-Jeep. AMC did not take over Jeep from Kaiser until 1970, at which point they phased out the Buick Dauntless V6 and replaced it with the AMC 7 main bearing inline six. Interestingly, Kaiser built a knock off version of the mid 1960's Rambler American in Argentina that used the Jeep Tornado 230 OHC L6 instead of the AMC L6 (199/232/258). It was called the Torino and is a legendary car in Argentina, but I forget the exact name of the Argentine Kaiser company (IKA?).

 

[joe_padavano]

The earlier Buick V6 was not the same as the later one. The early one was based on the old Buick nailhead (or nail valve depending on who you ask) V8 engine, while the later V6 was based on the newer Buick V8 which came out in 1967 or 68.

I disagree. The original 1961 V6 was based on the design of the aluminum 215 V8. I've owned both and many parts (rods, front cover, valvetrain, oil pump) are interchangeable. As described in the following article from the Turbo Buick website, when the V6 was bought back in the 1970s, the bore was increased to 3.800" to allow it to be machined on the same assembly line as the Buick 350. The basic architecture was still the same, however. The V6 went through numerous iterations in the 1980s and 1990s (3800 Series I, II, and III) including changing the bellhousing bolt pattern to the metric 60 degree bolt pattern and changing the exhaust ports to round equally spaced (instead of 3/4 of the V8 pattern).

http://www.gnttype.org/general/v6hist.html