Winning Isn't News

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maximus84

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What the Brits know and understand!

COL AJ Kessel (Ret)



Ready for a shock? Below is an article from the London Times about our
military.


Winning Isn't News
By INVESTOR'S BUSINESS DAILY



Iraq : What would happen if the U.S. won a war but the media didn't tell the
American public? Apparently, we have to rely on a British newspaper for the
news that we've defeated the last remnants of al-Qaida in Iraq .

London 's Sunday Times called it 'the culmination of one of the most
spectacular victories of the war on terror.' A terrorist force that once
numbered more than 12,000, with strongholds in the west and central regions
of Iraq , has over two years been reduced to a mere 1,200 fighters, backed
against the wall in the northern city of Mosul .

The destruction of al-Qaida in Iraq (AQI) is one of the most unlikely and
unforeseen events in the long history of American warfare. We can thank
President Bush's surge strategy, in which he bucked both Republican and
Democratic leaders in Washington by increasing our forces there instead of
surrendering.

We can also thank the leadership of the new general he placed in charge
there, David Petraeus, who may be the foremost expert in the world on
counter-insurgency warfare. And we can thank those serving in our military
in Iraq who engaged local Iraqi tribal leaders and convinced them America
was their friend and AQI their enemy.

Al-Qaida's loss of the hearts and minds of ordinary Iraqis began in Anbar
Province, which had been written off as a basket case, and spread out from
there.

Now, in Operation Lion's Roar the Iraqi army and the U.S. 3rd Armored
Cavalry Regiment is destroying the fraction of terrorists who are left.
More than 1,000 AQI operatives have already been apprehended.

Sunday Times reporter Marie Colvin, traveling with Iraqi forces in Mosul ,
found little AQI presence even in bullet-ridden residential areas that were
once insurgency strongholds, and reported that the terrorists have lost
control of its Mosul urban base, with what is left of the organization
having fled south into the countryside.

Meanwhile, the State Department reports that Iraqi Prime Minister Nouri
al-Maliki's government has achieved 'satisfactory' progress on 15 of the 18
political benchmarks 'a big change for the better from a year ago.'

Things are going so well that Maliki has even for the first time floated
the idea of a timetable for withdrawal of American forces. He did so while
visiting the United Arab Emirates , which over the weekend announced that
it was forgiving almost $7 billion of debt owed by Baghdad , an impressive
vote of confidence from a fellow Arab state in the future of a free Iraq .

But where are the headlines and the front-page stories about all this good
news? As the Media Research Center pointed out last week, 'the CBS Evening
News, NBC Nightly News and CNN's Anderson Cooper 360 were silent Tuesday
night about the benchmarks 'that signaled political progress.'

The war in Iraq has been turned around180 degrees both militarily and
politically because the president stuck to his guns. Yet apart from IBD, Fox
News Channel and parts of the foreign press, the media don't seem to
consider this historic event a big story.

Copyright 2008 Investor's Business Daily. All Rights Reserved.

Addendum: The reason you haven't seen this on American television or read
about it in the American press is simple--journalism is 'dead' in this
country. They are controlled by Liberals who would rather see our
troops defeated than recognize a successful Republican initiated response to
9/11

:twisted:
 
So when is this Republican response gonna start, Mr Bush? You promised us justice, you are a failure. You put him in there, now you get to live with the CHANGE.
 
srercrcr said:
So when is this Republican response gonna start, Mr Bush? You promised us justice, you are a failure. You put him in there, now you get to live with the CHANGE.
What! R U just dumb,or instigating again?
 
I posted alot of stuff on the political post, but I also post on other topics too. Maximus, do you even still own your g-body? Have you ever posted anything not political? If you did not understand what srercrcr was saying, I do not think he is the dumb one.

How can you declare victory in a war, because you defeated an enemy that was not there when the war started? Maybe there are less Al Qaida in Iraq, becuase they got bored and went home. If we have defeated al quaida in Iraq so well, why is Obama crazy for wanting to bring the troops home?
 
I'm done with political stuff for the most part.Just thought you guys might want to know how things are that arent reported in our mostly extreme liberal US media.Looks like you dont really care. I have 2 G-bodys. A 78 Cutlass Supreme and an 84 Elky. Am I required,now,to have more? :lol:
 
Stoopud said:
I posted alot of stuff on the political post, but I also post on other topics too. Maximus, do you even still own your g-body? Have you ever posted anything not political? If you did not understand what srercrcr was saying, I do not think he is the dumb one.

How can you declare victory in a war, because you defeated an enemy that was not there when the war started? Maybe there are less Al Qaida in Iraq, becuase they got bored and went home. If we have defeated al quaida in Iraq so well, why is Obama crazy for wanting to bring the troops home?
Now youre just stoopid,STOOPID :roll:
 
The problem is, we all know Iraq is a cluster****. I knew it back when we first went in, and said so at the time. But, what's done is done and now we have to concentrate on doing what is best for the stability of the region. How we get out will determine the success of the operation, and hopefully result in a free and stable Iraq. Unilateral immediate withdrawal at the wrong time will result in the outbreak of civil war and the deaths of thousands of innocent Iraqi civilians. Doing so will set back relations between the US and Iraq for decades to come. We don't need that, and neither do the people of Iraq. Weather you agreed with this war 6 years ago or not is now a moot point. You can't go back and undo it, all we can do now is try to best deal with the situation as it sits. How we do that will determine the true success or failure of US operations in Iraq.
 
85 Cutlass Brougham said:
The problem is, we all know Iraq is a cluster****. I knew it back when we first went in, and said so at the time. But, what's done is done and now we have to concentrate on doing what is best for the stability of the region. How we get out will determine the success of the operation, and hopefully result in a free and stable Iraq. Unilateral immediate withdrawal at the wrong time will result in the outbreak of civil war and the deaths of thousands of innocent Iraqi civilians. Doing so will set back relations between the US and Iraq for decades to come. We don't need that, and neither do the people of Iraq. Weather you agreed with this war 6 years ago or not is now a moot point. You can't go back and undo it, all we can do now is try to best deal with the situation as it sits. How we do that will determine the true success or failure of US operations in Iraq.
Well,at least someone gets it.You do know the WMD thing everyone said was BS wasnt? There were components found that are needed to construct them.But of course,our liberal media never said a word. And did you see the numerous pics of jets,tanks,munitions they found buried under feet of sand? Whose to say,theres not more WMD supplies out there?
 
maximus84 said:
85 Cutlass Brougham said:
The problem is, we all know Iraq is a cluster****. I knew it back when we first went in, and said so at the time. But, what's done is done and now we have to concentrate on doing what is best for the stability of the region. How we get out will determine the success of the operation, and hopefully result in a free and stable Iraq. Unilateral immediate withdrawal at the wrong time will result in the outbreak of civil war and the deaths of thousands of innocent Iraqi civilians. Doing so will set back relations between the US and Iraq for decades to come. We don't need that, and neither do the people of Iraq. Weather you agreed with this war 6 years ago or not is now a moot point. You can't go back and undo it, all we can do now is try to best deal with the situation as it sits. How we do that will determine the true success or failure of US operations in Iraq.
Well,at least someone gets it.You do know the WMD thing everyone said was BS wasnt? There were components found that are needed to construct them.But of course,our liberal media never said a word. And did you see the numerous pics of jets,tanks,munitions they found buried under feet of sand? Whose to say,theres not more WMD supplies out there?

Well, it is an obvious way of viewing the Iraq situation that too many people seem to ignore. We can't just walk away, this is not a poor country which poses no real ability to threaten us if it goes wrong. It's not Vietnam. It is an oil rich state with unstable elements within it's borders. In a way, it needed a Saddam Hussein to keep order with an iron fist, but we took away that restraint and now we need to fix what we broke. I think it can be fixed, and I hope they can all learn to coexist despite minor doctrinal differences within the different major sects of Islam. Hopefully, they stay an ally of the US without needing to be a puppet state of Washington after this is all done.
 
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