Need some verification on some things for 1986 442. I need some 86 442 heavies to weigh in here if you could.
I would like to think I know a decent amount of information about G-body 442 hose clamp styles. But I was taken to "school" by someone with an 86 442 with 75K miles on it. They claim it's all factory style clamps, and no worm style clamps just like factory.
I'm like...wtf? My response was that there were 4 types of different clamps used from the factory on 84-87 H/O and 442 coolant hoses.
4 worm clamps with small flat head screwdriver/ hex heads on the heater hoses. Small heads made it a PITA to use a flat blade on them.
2 Wittek style tower clamps on the bypass hose from T-stat housing to water pump.
3 double wire style screw head clamps for the upper hose and lower hose at radiator.
1 special worm clamp with a riveted on shield for the water pump lower hose connection- protected the lower hose from the A/C belt. (VIN 9 required/included A/C).
What am I missing? I've seen a lot of low mile cars in my time and this is how the hose clamps were set up from what I've seen.
He shows me pictures of the A.I.R. hose clamps which are single crimp pinch clamps and goes on to tell me how his uncle worked at the factory when these cars were new...blah blah blah...basically telling me I'm full of sh*t. I'm still calling Bullsh*t. He shows me pictures of his coolant hose clamps...Wittek and wire clamps where they need to be, wire clamp on lower coolant hose to water pump- that was wrong. His heater hose clamps were single crimp pinch clamps like the A.I.R. hose clamps. Even the hose picture he shows me has evidence of some other style of clamp was there before the crimp pinch clamps. The hoses don't even look original from the factory, but I'm not worried about that as much as what is supposed to be there. (not to mention the non-factory spark plug wires). Sigh. If I'm wrong, I'll own that, but I can find no evidence that crimp clamps were used on G-body heater hoses. And there were 2 types of worm drive clamps used on the coolant hoses.
I won't engage with him any longer because he seems to think he knows how his car was sent out the door from the factory and there's no way it had any worm drive clamps on the car from the factory. Ok.
I would like to think I know a decent amount of information about G-body 442 hose clamp styles. But I was taken to "school" by someone with an 86 442 with 75K miles on it. They claim it's all factory style clamps, and no worm style clamps just like factory.
I'm like...wtf? My response was that there were 4 types of different clamps used from the factory on 84-87 H/O and 442 coolant hoses.
4 worm clamps with small flat head screwdriver/ hex heads on the heater hoses. Small heads made it a PITA to use a flat blade on them.
2 Wittek style tower clamps on the bypass hose from T-stat housing to water pump.
3 double wire style screw head clamps for the upper hose and lower hose at radiator.
1 special worm clamp with a riveted on shield for the water pump lower hose connection- protected the lower hose from the A/C belt. (VIN 9 required/included A/C).
What am I missing? I've seen a lot of low mile cars in my time and this is how the hose clamps were set up from what I've seen.
He shows me pictures of the A.I.R. hose clamps which are single crimp pinch clamps and goes on to tell me how his uncle worked at the factory when these cars were new...blah blah blah...basically telling me I'm full of sh*t. I'm still calling Bullsh*t. He shows me pictures of his coolant hose clamps...Wittek and wire clamps where they need to be, wire clamp on lower coolant hose to water pump- that was wrong. His heater hose clamps were single crimp pinch clamps like the A.I.R. hose clamps. Even the hose picture he shows me has evidence of some other style of clamp was there before the crimp pinch clamps. The hoses don't even look original from the factory, but I'm not worried about that as much as what is supposed to be there. (not to mention the non-factory spark plug wires). Sigh. If I'm wrong, I'll own that, but I can find no evidence that crimp clamps were used on G-body heater hoses. And there were 2 types of worm drive clamps used on the coolant hoses.
I won't engage with him any longer because he seems to think he knows how his car was sent out the door from the factory and there's no way it had any worm drive clamps on the car from the factory. Ok.