computer removal
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its supremely beneficial if youre an ocd nut job... but then again almost not worth it for older cars unless you like vehicle management... personally I like everything to be easy and work like I like it to work and only work when I ask it to work, most of the reason I hate new sh*t... a couple weeks ago someone brought in their honda and I wanted to beat the **** out of it... when I closed the doors, the doors locked... when I opened the doors, the doors locked, WHEN I UNLOCKED THE ****ING DOORS, the doors locked... now maybe that could be a part of the safety system that over time has become faulty but plain and simple wins every time and running sh*t on a stand alone with the proper setup and nice storage and not having been jerry rigged together, is the easiest most peace at mind way to go... it makes diagnosing problems easier, fixing the problems easier and when your an ocd **** and you look at the engine bay you dont get all sad at all this wiring that the manufacturer thought they did an excellent ****ing job of installing... which... they didnt
so once you have figured out if youre an ocd **** job like most of us, you have to do some research on the product youre interested in... most commonly the only thing us v8 guys do is the msd box thing... makes it simpler to adjust timing and match and troubleshoot... for newer motors that have an electronic air flow sensor, a lot of this equipment can monitor that as well... as phony as it looks on fast and furious its actually pretty ****ing cool... my buddy likes all this new sh*t and hes trying to make the jump to fully tuneable air and fuel and it takes a lot of learning and time invested in getting everything to run correctly and in the end its plain cool.... not to mention that for us g body guys there is some crime deterrent in there.... the average gbody theft takes less than 60 seconds for someone whos done it before... if you have a fuel shut off switch (not really stand alone technology but we are in the same field of controlling vehicle parts on your own command) and the thief doesnt know about it or if he figured that out but you hid it in a weird place like not on the ****ing dash like most people, guess what hes bouncing and the most you have to replace is the 100 dollar windshield he broke or the 300 dollar ttop he ripped off... in the long run electronic management being in your control and not some dumbass tiny box in a hole designed 30 years ago is a good thing
so once you have figured out if youre an ocd **** job like most of us, you have to do some research on the product youre interested in... most commonly the only thing us v8 guys do is the msd box thing... makes it simpler to adjust timing and match and troubleshoot... for newer motors that have an electronic air flow sensor, a lot of this equipment can monitor that as well... as phony as it looks on fast and furious its actually pretty ****ing cool... my buddy likes all this new sh*t and hes trying to make the jump to fully tuneable air and fuel and it takes a lot of learning and time invested in getting everything to run correctly and in the end its plain cool.... not to mention that for us g body guys there is some crime deterrent in there.... the average gbody theft takes less than 60 seconds for someone whos done it before... if you have a fuel shut off switch (not really stand alone technology but we are in the same field of controlling vehicle parts on your own command) and the thief doesnt know about it or if he figured that out but you hid it in a weird place like not on the ****ing dash like most people, guess what hes bouncing and the most you have to replace is the 100 dollar windshield he broke or the 300 dollar ttop he ripped off... in the long run electronic management being in your control and not some dumbass tiny box in a hole designed 30 years ago is a good thing
ok... so If you didn't read my last comment I decided to delete my comment where I explained that the first comment I tried to post failed because my internet is fail... who knows my internet could be so disgustingly awful that I did post and I just don't know it... it went something like this
It's only good if you think it's good... I like sh*t the way I like sh*t for no reason what so ever but thats the way I like it... there are a sh*t load of people on this forum who would argue that no, it's not a good idea because the car was designed to run the way it was designed to run and that for that reason it is better... these people also tend to believe lupus and fibromyalgia are real diseases... some of them also believe in god but I like to tip toe through that neighborhood... despite your lack luster ability to make decisions, yes having complete control over a 4000 lb rolling piece of metal is good... you could drive a yaris and the brakes could go out O.O oh me oh my what ever will i do..... yeah you could be an idiot or you could have a fuel shut off switch -.- or brakes, which ever your more accustomed to
humanity is overrated, but as long as you are, you might as well embrace that fact that you are greedy and all you want is control and p*ssy... they say you are more likely to get p*ssy if you can get out of your car in 3 seconds or less, im guessing to imply the fact that your not clumsy... personally i think the guy with seats that help him out of his car is a f-----t... you are free to think that tylenol and automatic transmissions and boredom induced coma is a way to lead a life but personally, I would recommend to think about the fact that automatic transmissions and automatic door locking and mirrors and move down slightly when you shift into reverse and a mirrors that tints when the sun is bright because you arent cool enough to buy a pair of turtle shell ray bans and electronic blow me fuel injection is not interesting, or good, or enjoyable
it boils down to how you wanna feel when you get in your car... maybe you dont like jumping in the car and hitting the switch with a full tank of gas and a half a pack of cigarettes and feel like a badass... maybe you wouldnt paint your car flat black and spray HUGE EGO in between the tail lights so people understood what you meant when you passed them on the shoulder... but i'm just saying what I would do
It's only good if you think it's good... I like sh*t the way I like sh*t for no reason what so ever but thats the way I like it... there are a sh*t load of people on this forum who would argue that no, it's not a good idea because the car was designed to run the way it was designed to run and that for that reason it is better... these people also tend to believe lupus and fibromyalgia are real diseases... some of them also believe in god but I like to tip toe through that neighborhood... despite your lack luster ability to make decisions, yes having complete control over a 4000 lb rolling piece of metal is good... you could drive a yaris and the brakes could go out O.O oh me oh my what ever will i do..... yeah you could be an idiot or you could have a fuel shut off switch -.- or brakes, which ever your more accustomed to
humanity is overrated, but as long as you are, you might as well embrace that fact that you are greedy and all you want is control and p*ssy... they say you are more likely to get p*ssy if you can get out of your car in 3 seconds or less, im guessing to imply the fact that your not clumsy... personally i think the guy with seats that help him out of his car is a f-----t... you are free to think that tylenol and automatic transmissions and boredom induced coma is a way to lead a life but personally, I would recommend to think about the fact that automatic transmissions and automatic door locking and mirrors and move down slightly when you shift into reverse and a mirrors that tints when the sun is bright because you arent cool enough to buy a pair of turtle shell ray bans and electronic blow me fuel injection is not interesting, or good, or enjoyable
it boils down to how you wanna feel when you get in your car... maybe you dont like jumping in the car and hitting the switch with a full tank of gas and a half a pack of cigarettes and feel like a badass... maybe you wouldnt paint your car flat black and spray HUGE EGO in between the tail lights so people understood what you meant when you passed them on the shoulder... but i'm just saying what I would do
I have no idea of what gh666 is on about, but I assume you are talking about computers in a Gbody?.
Its a very basic unit controlling the carb and in some cases timing.
Before you remove it find out just what it does in your paticular car and figure out what you need to do to to make it run properly without it.
In the UK I've had to sort out a lot of cars after the owners had binned the emission control equipment and wondered why the car ran like sh*t afterwards. Mostly the owners heard that smog equipment robbed the engine of a lot of power and therefore taking it off would put the car back to pre smog power levels.
The engine is designed to run with the computer, if you want to remove it you will need to retrofit equipment designed to run without it.
Roger.
Its a very basic unit controlling the carb and in some cases timing.
Before you remove it find out just what it does in your paticular car and figure out what you need to do to to make it run properly without it.
In the UK I've had to sort out a lot of cars after the owners had binned the emission control equipment and wondered why the car ran like sh*t afterwards. Mostly the owners heard that smog equipment robbed the engine of a lot of power and therefore taking it off would put the car back to pre smog power levels.
The engine is designed to run with the computer, if you want to remove it you will need to retrofit equipment designed to run without it.
Roger.
the moral of the story is remove the computer for tuneability and not for performance upgrades, because you are not going to see anything significant. the main pro to doing it is cleaning up your engine bay. also when people talk about removing the computer the intake is also not talked about often but you have an egr valve sitting there with a vacumn solenoidto control it. i suggest getting a non egr intake to lose the computer but i suppose some guys seem content with an egr block off plate
the main component of the emission control was the heads themselves so unless they are changed performance improvements will be minor
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