Don't Hate the Crossover Craze

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I like both Honda and Toyota. Great cars. Toyota seems to get their stuff right and not deviate much where Honda is usually a little more willing to experiment.

Do a little poking around for Subaru oil consumption issues.
**I love Subarus, BTW. Just thought you should be aware if you hadn't heard about it yet.**
 
I like both Honda and Toyota. Great cars. Toyota seems to get their stuff right and not deviate much where Honda is usually a little more willing to experiment.

Do a little poking around for Subaru oil consumption issues.
**I love Subarus, BTW. Just thought you should be aware if you hadn't heard about it yet.**

I love Toyotas, my daily driver Camry has 195,000 miles on it and still going strong. My family car growing up was a 1989 Camry that had 260,000 miles on it when we sold it to a neighbor who drove it for another 5 years. I don't have much experience with Hondas but I have no reason to doubt their reputation. My parents bought a brand new 2015 Subaru Outback not quite three years ago and they love it. It doesn't seem to have any oil consumption issues (knock on wood), now at 50,000ish miles. It's a comfortable car and gets 25 mpg which is crazy good for full time AWD.
 
All 3 are great.
The oil consumption thing is fairly recent -- last couple years. Not wide sweeping but out there. Its under warranty anyway.
Before that was head gaskets. I've done dozens.
No car is perfect. Overall honda, Toyota and Subaru make great products.
 
My questions are when did the smaller SUVs become crossovers (CUVs) & who was the genius that convinced stationwagon haters to love crossovers that are truely stationwagons?
 
The Subaru's are different more like a modern AMC Eagle wagon but sportier. Plus they came out long before the cross over craze. I just hate their skinny tops and fat bottoms, talking GM's and the rest of the mishaped bunch. None of AWD set ups totally replace a good 4x4 truck in exteme snowfall. Another unnecessary thing everyone has for daily driver's, and mean nearly everyone. If we didn't have winter and kids moving back and forth from university and a boat, I wouldn't own the gad guzzling POS.
 
Here is my un-crossover,> front wheel drive, roomy and good looking IMO. With electronic traction control, front wheel drive and good winter tires there is not much that can outdrag me in the snowy grand prix. Keeping in mind, CUV and Crossover drivers don't generally install winter tires.
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...and with the great gas mileage of the 1.8T engine I can afford to put the good stuff in the SS!
 
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The Difference between 1938 and 1958 isn't "Harley Earl"... its dirt roads vs. paved roads. Cars were tall in 1938 because nobody had money to buy a car (so the designs didn't change much in the previous 10 years) and the roads still sucked.

Ten years after postwar ex servicemen built paved roads all across US, you could build low slung cars and not get high centered on the way to the grocery store.
You should see the roads around here. My mufflers look like skid plates. Our state is so broke now that secondary roads are being reverted to gravel. People drive trucks and SUV's around here more because of the suspension travel and 4 wheel drive than for looks. My G-Bodies are awesome, but I know once it gets slick out they will not make it from my house to the highway without getting stuck or diving off in the ditch. 6% grade hills are a b*tch.
 
I rented a crossover last vacation, hated it. Poor vision, especially out the back, slow, and not a gas sipper. Also found it cramped.
 
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