Green Weenies

The same 3 freaking wires feed all 3 houses, so how the hell does making a donation to a "clean" company do a damn bit of good when the same 3 wires go back to the coal fired power plant?

My Dad is a civil a engineer for a local school district. Part of his job is getting contracts and writing checks for their utilities, including their electric. Earlier this year he worked out a new contract with the power company which provided huge cost savings to the district over their previous contract. I don't remember the exact details, but it had something to do with the fact that the grid was sourcing more nuclear power at a reduced rate.

As soon as the academia pencil pushers on the school board found out that the contract was "supporting "toxic" nuclear energy" they rejected the contract despite the huge cost savings and went with another far more expensive one despite the fact it all comes off the same grid.

People who don't know how energy works don't seem to realize that electricity all comes off the same grid. They aren't unplugging your building from the coal plant and taking the cord over to a windmill.

"Going green" sounds great to ignorant people who don't understand how reality works and have no desire to understand, so why not say they are making a donation towards green energy and fool whoever is dumb enough to believe it is making a significant impact?
 
the fallacy is the agenda pushing renewable energy ignores the ungreen resources and methods used to advance their agenda
Same argument as always. Name me an industry on earth that doesn’t use ungreen methods, and I’ll drop the argument. From start to finish.


People act like the methods to produce the “green” options somehow got worse when agendas started being pushed. Lithium mines have been operating for decades, but hybrids and Teslas show up and somehow lithium becomes the worst thing since mercury in syringes. Wind turbines start to become popular and some redneck films one breaking apart in hurricane force winds and suddenly they’re going to kill us all.
And above all else- negligence results in 3 nuclear disasters causing people to vilify nuclear power.


No matter which way you cut it, people create an argument for any reason to stop any source of renewable energy, while ignoring that the planet will run out of oil, while not having the capacity to produce synthetics because none of them are profitable to corrupt politicians, or they offend some stupid board of directors like joe mentioned.
To be blunt: the US is burning oil at a rate we cannot keep up with, this shouldn’t be just about pollution, it should be about making a barrel of oil or a ton of coal last longer, and what’s wrong with that?
 
all I can say is it should be left up to the market to decide what we do, we are not that dumb that we need to be lead around by idiots with their agendas that are out for the $$$$$$$......
 
it should be about making a barrel of oil or a ton of coal last longer, and what’s wrong with that?

Hi, I'm Mike and I own five cars with V8s. LOL.
 
I'm not saying green energy is not a worthwhile effort, but most of the people demanding it have no idea of the full implications, economically, infrastructurally or otherwise of "going green". And don't be fooled, plenty of these people have ulterior motives. If I own a significant share in General Electric or Siemens, hell yeah I'm in favor of windmills.

Quite frankly I think it's great that the private sector is taking it upon themselves and spending the money to invest in it. If Amazon wants buy green energy credits, good on them. I'd much rather have private companies like Amazon spending the money toward green energy than have some politician tell me that my tax dollars are going towards it.

Like Steve said, let the market dictate the demand. If Amazon wants green energy and they are willing to pay for it, great. I still believe there is a financial motive behind it, it's not out of the goodness of Jeff Bezos' heart. They can advertise that they are a green company and people who don't understand energy will see it and think "Oh that's nice", and think they are somehow doing good by supporting Amazon.
 
I'm not saying green energy is not a worthwhile effort, but most of the people demanding it have no idea of the full implications, economically, infrastructurally or otherwise of "going green". And don't be fooled, plenty of these people have ulterior motives. If I own a significant share in General Electric or Siemens, hell yeah I'm in favor of windmills.

Quite frankly I think it's great that the private sector is taking it upon themselves and spending the money to invest in it. If Amazon wants buy green energy credits, good on them. I'd much rather have private companies like Amazon spending the money toward green energy than have some politician tell me that my tax dollars are going towards it.

Like Steve said, let the market dictate the demand. If Amazon wants green energy and they are willing to pay for it, great. I still believe there is a financial motive behind it, it's not out of the goodness of Jeff Bezos' heart. They can advertise that they are a green company and people who don't understand energy will see it and think "Oh that's nice", and think they are somehow doing good by supporting Amazon.

This ^^^^ is sensible and responsible IMO.


This problem is a 'follow the money' issue - as usual.
 

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