Holy crap what a piece of crap!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[foxtrot]

I love re-enginerding my old cars - hell I live for it.

Just wait until I swap in a hydrogen fuel cell!

I understand where you are coming from but again for me its a part time hoby. I have many other people counting on my time. I’m maried, kids, elderly parents and an integral part of my company. Just too many demands on my time to make it a ful time hobby..

 

[olds307 and 403]

Being an Olds V8 guy, why reengineer an old car, adding a modern drivetrain, brakes etc? Why not buy a new Camaro, Mustang or Challenger, a few of us have for that reason, I need an all season reliable car. I am also more of a bolt on guy. I may go as far as a bolt on Sniper TBi on my 70 but just may stay old school including drum brakes FTW!

 

[foxtrot]

Being an Olds V8 guy, why reengineer an old car, adding a modern drivetrain, brakes etc? Why not buy a new Camaro, Mustang or Challenger, a few of us have for that reason, I need an all season reliable car. I am also more of a bolt on guy. I may go as far as a bolt on Sniper TBi on my 70 but just may stay old school including drum brakes FTW!

EXACTLY!

 

[olds307 and 403]

That is kind of the problem with the protouring hotrod craze for old cars now. Instead of offering bolts ons, everybody is pushing these expensive big kits that are major re-engineering of old cars. Sadly the market is pushing everyone in this direction with the mass discontinuing of stock replacements parts and simple bolt on upgrades.

That is why things like the 442 replacement exhaust was discontinued.

 

[565bbchevy]

That is why things like the 442 replacement exhaust was discontinued.

Sorry, I probably bought the last one of everything for my Regal, I had to go through 4 different vendors to gather all of the parts to complete it.

 

[pagrunt]

That is why things like the 442 replacement exhaust was discontinued.

With things like that it makes traking the last known parts so much more fun (until the seller jacks the price sky high.)

 

[fleming442]

I love re-enginerding my old cars - hell I live for it.

Just wait until I swap in a hydrogen fuel cell!

My next project for the Pig:

 

[olds307 and 403]

Sorry, I probably bought the last one of everything for my Regal, I had to go through 4 different vendors to gather all of the parts to complete it.

It just shows how many of our cars are kept stock. The 442 factory exhaust was barely an upgrade, the factory got 30 more hp once they made a simple y pipe and added shorty headers with ram air. Swapping motors, especially from the same engine family and bending exhaust is one thing, reengineering a car is a whole can of worms and causes many headache's and crying fits. Even my Olds powered 4x4 gave headache's, the best factory computer in my 94 ran great warm but ran shitty in open loop, do doubt due to my massive 204/214 cam.

 

[foxtrot]

It just shows how many of our cars are kept stock. The 442 factory exhaust was barely an upgrade, the factory got 30 more hp once they made a simple y pipe and added shorty headers with ram air. Swapping motors, especially from the same engine family and bending exhaust is one thing, reengineering a car is a whole can of worms and causes many headache's and crying fits. Even my Olds powered 4x4 gave headache's, the best factory computer in my 94 ran great warm but ran shitty in open loop, do doubt due to my massive 204/214 cam.

Massive cam? Ha

 

[olds307 and 403]

Massive cam? Ha

Exactly, they say 210 duration and 112 LSA is the max for the stock TBI computer, even less tolerant to big cams than the CCC. Kind of off track but there has been many new good parts come out the last year for the SBO, billet 3.875"/4" stroker crank and the Thornton stainless shorty headers are two good examples.