How Much Should a Rebuild Cost?

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It's all in how well they are/were maintained, my olds 350 has somewhere around 60K on it, (speedo is way off so it could be much more) I have had it since it had about 3000 miles on it, and my oil is always nice and clean when I change it (usually between 2000-2500 miles, or 3 months, whichever comes first). Any neglected engine will gunk up and get nasty, the worst one I have seen was a sbc that someone had over heated who knows how many times and never bothered changing the oil, when I pulled the valve cover off, the sludge in that engine was built up over the entire valve train (you could barely see the rockers) :shock: . So it's all in the life the engine has lived, if abused of neglected (which it seems the engines you have found are), any make engine will/can gunk or sludge itselft to death.

As far as the oiling problem, which isn't getting the oil to the top, but rather getting it back to the bottom. Olds' engines can pump the pan dry if used at high rpm for extended periods, so there's a few things you can do. The easiest thing to do is make sure the drain holes in the heads don't have any burrs on them, if so knock it down, you can clean it up a bit there as well making sure the path is clear from obstruction. Some builders say to put retrictors in the upper end to limit the amount of oil that gets pumped to the top, and to enlarge the oil hole it the main bearings (unecessary unless you're building a race engine that has to live 6500+ r's). Then you get into the oil draining down on the rotating assembly an being thrown about the crankcase, so there's scrapers and trays for this problem, again on a purely street engine where you'll be staying around 2500 rpm, this is a non issue. One the modifications that I had seen a while back was from mondello (I think), what he did was create an alternate path for the oil to flow, drilled and tapped holes in the backside of the heads (as low as possible), installed fittings and ran hose down directly to the pan to limit crank interference. Not sure how this method worked out, but I do like the theory, and when I have time to do more research on it, I may use that method when I build my 455. If the engine is used for it's original purpose (lugging around a 5000 pound car across country) the stock oil system is plenty sufficient, if used for street/strip, do a little research with an Oldsmobile specific builder (Dick Miller, Mondello, BTR, Rocket Racing, etc) to find out what really has to be done for your specific application. Good luck.
 
Re:'86 307 Build

If your spending good money on a rebuild, might as well upgrade it!?

Street 307 Build: Limit Maximum Bore to 0.040"
Block: Align bore the mains, Square the block deck, install oil restrictors on #2,3,4 mains. Use ARP main studs! Remove any burs and make sure that the return holes down to the crankshaft area are free of flashing and opened up to their full dimensions. Slightly enlargen, and polish the entrance to the oil suction hole on the number 5 main cap.
Pistons: Mondello/Arias #2280 9.5:1 forged pistons, which are about 100 grams lighter than stock.
Crankshaft: Replace the cast crank with the early nodular 350 crank, casting # 393654 with a large "N" on the front counterweight. Get it Cross-drilled at 2 & 4 oil passage, have oil passages chamfered. And have it Deburred.
Connecting Rods: Use the 350 rods, casting # 393654 as well - as the crank will need to be rebalanced. Also have them Magnafluxed, bead blasted and shot peened, deburr and polish the rod beams. Dbl notch big end of each rod. Install new ARP bolts.
Heads: Get a set of "5A" from any 1980-85 Olds 307 engine. Install stock 350 Valves (1.875" Intake, 1.562" Exhaust), competition valve job, blend bowls, port/polish the ports and combustion chambers, mill heads 0.030", for a true 8.7:1 compression ratio. Braze the center divider on the exhaust port.
Camshaft: Mondello RH-6-14 kit with stock roller lifters. If you have 3.73 gears go with RH-14-22 cam.
Harmonic Balancer: Do not reuse your harmonic balancer! Sealed Power #594028, or GM #22506370
Timing Chain Cloyes True Double Roller
Oil Pump Drive: Go with an aftermarket heftier drive shaft like Milodon's chrome moly #22575 $22
Oil Filter: Wix brand
Intake: Install Edelbrock Performer #3711
Carb: Rebuild your Quadrajet, and adjust the secondary metering rods to richen the WOT mixture. This should not lead to an over rich condition at idle or part throttle, since the secondaries are typically closed and because only the primary barrels are ECM controlled.
Air Cleaner: MrGasket #5191 Chrome Lid $25 - like what came on factory 442 & Hurst/Olds, and K&N E-1500 air cleaner. Or for more airflow K&N X-Stream Chrome Top LID-& Replacement Filter (E-1500) #CE-1503 $99

For the Ignition:
Coil: Accel #140015 $67
Cap & Rotor: Accel #8123 $20
Ignition Control Module: Accel #35363 $50
Plug Wires: Taylor #51004 $29



HP costs $$, how fast do you want to go??

I'd say though $3,500 would be for a fairly "stock" build, with good parts like a set of forged pistons/rings, for good seal, so it won't be smoking out of the valve covers.
 
Thanks for all the info. So basically, with a 4-speed auto and 2.56 gears the engine shouldn't have any issues.

As far as changing the heads and going with an aftermarket cam, I thought about it, but it would just be too much. I have a new GM H.O./VIN 9 roller cam, and headers. I'm not really concerned with performance too much. I just want an all-around reliable car, and make the best with as much as what I already have. I can't get too crazy anyway since Delaware smog tests everything unless you have it registered as a classic (which requires the car to be 25+ years old, only driven certain mileage a year, etc.).
 
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