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No actually I'm probably not being clear... Because we're talking about one of the same tracks, I live like 15 minutes from Trenton. And the other track would be Bridgeport, you could run vortecs there too but the only way to keep it iron manifold is to buy a 500 dollar "marine" style manifold and I don't know if that's legal. And like I said they have poorly spelled out rules, unlike New Egypt whose rules are pretty well defined except for just a few little details. :lol:

And I saw those rhodes lifters in summit... and thought to myself the same thing ie. bigger cam.
 
Oh, we're neighbors then. I attend NES almost every week and I am very familiar with the Outlaw Stock rules. I know of at least one racer there who runs a marine manifold and claims it passes tech. Problem is that the rules say the OEM manifold must be one "that was used on an assembly line vehicle." So the rule says one thing but tech allows another. NES no longer allows OEM 4 barrels, all cars must run a 4412. I don't think anyone is running true box stock either, at least not competitively. If I were building an engine for NES, I would go Vortec/Performer just to avoid hunting down the right heads and iron manifolds. But both combos are competitive. For example, on 5-29-2010, the winning car was running old style heads (perimeter valve covers), and the 2nd place car was likely running Vortecs (center bolt valve covers). I suspect the 2nd place car was not running the Performer manifold, which means he may have drilled the Vortec to work with an iron manifold. Not sure, but keep your eyes peeled if you decide to walk through the pits.

NES has a pretty competitive class with a car count of about 18 or so. It used to be much higher. I went to Bridgeport once last year, had about 12 street stocks. There are a few cars at NES that are borderline late models in my opinion. Instead of starting with a Monte or Camaro and converting it into a race car, they start with a race car and add stock parts in the right places to get it to pass tech.

Also, be careful about building a car for 2012 based on the 2011 rules today. They seem to change every year. Also, NJ is very strict on safety, so things like cages, fuel cells, safety equipment need to be top notch. NES also requires one way radios and transponders. Not sure about Bridgeport.

If you want to see some video of NES, look here. These are my videos: One is an Outlaw stock heat race, and the other is a big block modified heat race:

http://youtu.be/m_QpZPVtXy4

http://youtu.be/Zzu_IlBcQJ0
 
Cool vids. I've been there before with my friends, I know a guy that runs a sprint car, and I know a guy who used to run a stockcar. Wouldn't say I'm "friends" with them but I know them, and the one guy is really cool he let me use his shop before I bet I could recruit him to help me out. Anyway we've gone there to watch but I've never actually been involved personally.

That's one thing I'm not sure on the rules too... Do people run other G-bodies or just Malibu's or Monte's? I know the rules say that the engine must match the make and model of the car, but does that mean like any GM car can run any GM division engine, or does it have to stay stock. Or is that just to keep people from putting chevy engines in fords and vise versa? Cuz my plan was to use my Regal as the base just because I already have it, but if I can't put a Chevy engine in it then there probably isn't much point.
 
Hello There, Just My 2 Cents! I Would go old school, more flow,more power!!! Educate&Enjoy!
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Some guys run Cutlasses, Regals and Grand Prix, but all have Chevy small blocks. Pretty certain any GM can and must run small block Chevy.
 
Cool yeah that's what I figured but I wasn't sure... I gotta wonder though... Is Chevy power mandatory? Probably, it would be hard to tech cars if people were running a million different engines.

And I guess ford guys are stuck with Windsor engines, because Cleveland heads have huge valves 2.19/1.71's or 2.19/1.67's and I guess the mopar guys are stuck with just the A or LA/Magnum 340's or 360's... :lol:
 
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