My Father's Oldsmobile

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Does anyone know if I can get beehives for the Edelbrock heads? I'm calling Travato tomorrow to see what he has kicking around.

I'm not knowledgeable of your Olds heads, but it would seem that you can run whatever spring you want with proper machining and setup.

Regarding valve float and understanding that repeated valve float is bad : you mentioned previously 'The heads have about 20k miles over 18ish years, I suppose.' Were those the original springs? If they were and you were street driving this only, then OK. Spirited driving is one thing, but drag racing is another - the hotter the oil, then less cooling of the springs - many things are better hot - valve springs aren't one of them 😉 .

Without knowing your lifter, pushrod, valve and spring retainer weights, it would be difficult to guess at a spring. The combination that 500/600 described above of 140ish seat and 360ish nose pressure seem fine to me. But his cam has a fair amount more lift than yours, implying your nose pressure will be much less implying you could possibly be floating valves at a lower rpm than he is with more lift. There are people that know these things precisely (I'm not one of them). Personally, I prefer Pac springs and the people at Pac - I'm yet to hear of anyone that has been lead astray by their advice or their springs. And they are easy to talk to and contact, or I should say they were pre-Covid at least.

Something to keep in mind about beehives, they will not have the life expectancy of a double spring. But they are cheaper to replace. The goto sloppy turbo LS spring is the Pac 1218 beehive. They work great when new, but most of these builds don't see 10 years and many of them don't make it 10 months lol. The 1218's new are holding fast for me so far at 22psi and 7500 rpm's with .585 lift, but I expect to be replacing them some time next year if the heads are still one piece by then.

I recommend contacting either a spring manufacturer or a known cam grinder, i.e. Mike Jones, Chris Straub, etc.

My two cents - Jim
 
I run PAC on my Caddy and I run PSI 1511s on my SRT8 daily driver with 0.630” lift and 6800rpm redline which happens frequently.

I threw Almost new and quite adequate dual springs in the trash to move to beehives on my Caddy.
 
Here is a picture of the PAC 1220 springs with one of the Comp Cams dual springs still installed. I wrote down the weight difference between the two combos (spring, lock, retainer) but I can't seem to find it. It was like the 30% reduction. I was also going to have to notch my Harland Sharp rockers to stay with dual springs and that was also a deciding factor.

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I've got things in motion for the new bullet:
-Buying a .040 over block from Trimble to be bored .060, decked, and align bored for the halo
-Ordered pistons and valve springs from Travato this morning. He advised reusing the E-brock hardware; said it's light for what it was and not to waste money on Ti
-Paid for a pair of E-brock heads that are polished (hate to paint them but.....) with 2.15 intake valves and possible short turn work

Stay tuned!
 
Re-using crank, cam, lifters and connecting rods?
 
No beehives?
 
No beehives?
Man, these Olds builders are a cryptic-a$$ed bunch. Bill said he has springs for $140 and to reuse my locks and keepers. Frank says he has springs he uses, but weren't beehives. Not a part number or manufacturer mentioned by either.
I am smart enough to deduce that if I'm reusing hardware, they're probably not beehives. However, I am not smart enough to figure out what beehives I should use......
 
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