Project Scar

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RegalShep

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Been a while since I even signed on to gbf, so I figured I'd say hello again and give some updates and history on my Regal, also known to me and my friends as "Scar."

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First off, I got the car when I was 17. I had started my love affair with Buicks and at the time I couldn't find one that I liked, and a friend at the time said "Hey, I know where a Regal is in Arkansas.. but there'll be conditions." So I got in touch with the owner, and the condition was that I couldn't strip the trunk. Odd condition, yes? Well.. this is why..

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Call it insanity, call it a bit of my childhood memories flooding back (Was a big Lion King fan as a kid).. call it whatever you will, I was in love. Being young and going to tech school and such, I didn't have much money, so my mother, rest her soul, bought it for me. Within a month or two we got out there, bought it, only to realize the DMV was closed for the day. Given the previous owner had a new car with two plates, she said "Alright, use one of mine.." thankfully it was a vanity plate with her nick name on it which matched the url that's painted in the back window, so we drove for four hours with a plate that belonged to a Mazda 3 back to Tulsa with my new baby.

Me and a couple friends drove the thing for a few days, hitting up our usual hangouts in my "new" Regal. A good memory from those couple days was playing "I Just Can't Wait To Be King" on full blast at an intersection. Imagine the scene. Four, not very well-to-do kids in a Buick sedan smoking cigarettes.. I'll never, as long as I live, forget the look on another motorist's face when he rolled his window down to verify that.. yes.. four teenagers, who look like 'bad kids' were bumpin The Lion King soundtrack.

Well, as happens in life, situations changed, I never got my license, and it sat.. for seven years. I didn't do much with that time. Mainly partied away the years until I had to take a step back and re-evaluate. So I cleaned up, got a job, and was starting to put whatever small money I could into the car. Then a few months ago, I finally got some money, but at terrible cost. My mother passed away, and I was left with some life insurance money to start sorting things out.

I don't spill half my life story on a forum to get sympathy or anything like that, but to point out how, in moments of sorrow, and joy, cars elevate themselves. They become more than a hunk of metal sitting in your driveway. They become family. So it has been with my Regal, and I'm sure that's how it is for a few other members here on gbodyforum.

Anywho! On to the fun stuff. So, first step was to get an oil change, so I started the engine, let it warm up the many years old oil, and then drained it all out and replaced it with a healthy dose of Royal Purple and a new filter. A lot of the old shakes and shudders soon disappeared after a break in period, and it still didn't feel 'right' to me, so on down the list of things I'd already planned to do, I put in new plugs. Come to find out, the gaps were completely wrong for the engine.. 0.08 or 0.09. So I got the new plugs, gapped them by hand, and installed. Still not quite right. A week or two after that I tore down the distributor and replaced what needed replacing, which ended up meaning new ignition coil, coil strap, rotor, cap, and plug wires.

But then, tragedy! Worse than before! Now that engine was really angry with me! I spent the rest of the day going :wtf: Shaking like crazy on it's engine mounts, fuel spitting out the carb in epic backfires, and no amount of retard or advance fixed any of it. I knew we'd put the plug wires right where they're 'supposed' to go, and it still was being hateful. Well, I called it quits for the day and came back the next day, looked up the firing order, and rewired.

Success!... not. Got 'em all in the right order, and then it ran.. at like, 5 rpm. It sounded like an old Model T that was just croaking to life. So off the plug wires came again and I rotated each wire by one post, and then bam! I'd never, ever heard that engine sound so happy. Still a high idle, still some issues remain, but after some timing adjustments, it now starts on the first crank as long as it hasn't sat for a few days.

This is why I love this little 231 v6. Take a step back and realize this car drove all the way from Arkansas, seven years ago, and who knows how long before that on the wrong firing order. That right there is enough to make me very loyal to the little v6 that could.

Other things that have been done were correcting other mistakes that were made in 'repairs' over the course of the previous owner's period with the car. This lady loved hot glue.. so much so that the passenger lower door panel had been hot glued along the top to the upper door panel. That simply wouldn't do. Off came the door panels, and then the most difficult job I've done since owning the car.. removing the hot glue from the fabric. I didn't have any real tools to do the job with, so I used what I had. The heat of the Oklahoma sun, some rubbing alcohol to lessen the glue's grip, and a screwdriver.

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Yeah the fabric got a bit frayed, but it wasn't perfect to begin with (top is sun bleached) so I'm quite happy with the results. Next up, I needed to sort out the passenger window regulator, and possibly, find a new door to replace it altogether, thanks to this.

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So, I found a 78 Pontiac Grand Le Mans in a junkyard and got it's regulator to replace mine which had been used with vice grips for who knows how long. No picture of that, sorry. I also decided to grab the window glass even though I wasn't quite sure if the window frames were the same, since it's track wasn't made of rust like mine was.

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Another part that came from that Le Mans were these two 'beauties' grabbed purely so I can do some speaker pod mockups on them without ruining my current door panels.

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Pretty terrible panels, but they'll serve their purpose when I get around to that little project. But then, after spending all that time wrestling that regulator out of the door, I went to another yard to find this carcass. (Pic taken after I had stripped what I could)

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I was overjoyed. I'd spent ages trying to find four door parts and here was an absolute treasure trove. I had pretty much given up on ever scoring power vents, and yet here was a car, mostly complete with exactly what I was looking for. No Buick specific things, of course, but plenty of pieces to sort through. Only trouble was, I had 3 days until it hit the crusher, and one of them was the day that I had no time to get what I needed. Two days of four plus hours in the hot Oklahoma sun got me two rear doors with power vents..

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Two front doors with all controls intact. (Pic taken after they were shoehorned into an overpacked garage to keep them out of the rain)

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And complete power window/lock harness and four sill plates

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I really, really wish I'd had more time with that old Cutlass. So many pieces that guys here would've liked to have for a Cutlass restoration. I mean, look at that bumper and those tail lights! Even the majority of the fill panel was intact and near perfect. Trunk pan was as solid as the day she rolled off the showroom floor. Excellent C pillar badges.. Good windshield, good rear window and windshield trim.. just a lot of really, really nice parts. Really wish I'd had more time to gut that car..

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Future plans are to build around the whole "Scar" theme.. I'd die to have a Grand National driveline out of a wrecked GN. I don't want one from a good GN, I want one from a dead one, to fit the theme of Scar killing his own brother to have his power.. ya know, that sorta stuff. Silly? Sure, but I promised to keep the theme when I bought the car, and I stick to my word, so I think having that driveline would fit the theme nicely.

Other than that, replace the windshield, get started on rust repairs, which are probably going to be extensive thanks to a leak in the windshield, a body mount rusted completely off the body, wheel wells, quarter panels, some rocker panel work.. get the tags caught up and fix the rest of the gremlins hiding in the electrical system, such as my dimmer switch dimming the parking lights... which come on with the ignition. That one's probably a crossed wire, but who knows?

Got a long road ahead of me with this sedan, but it's my baby. Would love to hear what you guys think of it, and if anybody has any good ideas for the theme, IE paint, Scar's location on the car, etc, give a shout! I seriously can't think of where I want to paint him after all the bodywork is done, so any ideas would be helpful.

Keep an eye on the El Camino forum for a post on my dad's 1979 GMC Caballero Diablo w/ factory 4 speed and 305, which needs a lot of work too, but has been in his possession since new. Can't wait to drive that one when it's fixed up!

Thanks for reading my excessively long post, and good luck with your G bodies everyone.
 
Nice! I would be hanging that trunkild on the garage wall! Goodluck with it man.
 
glad to have you back in and starting anew!

sorry about the loss of your mom, but the great memories will help fuel your passion for the car, it's build, and your general outlook... I lost my dad a few years ago to cancer, and he had always been interested in the progress on my regal. I guess that's why it's important to me to see this project through, as it's in a small way, a bit of a tribute to him.

keep us updated on your progress, and of course, more pics! 😀
 
Update #1

Thanks for the nice words, guys.
@-83MONTESS- , yeah, I'd totally hang it on the garage wall too! But I'd need another trunk lid first.
@1evilregal, condolences on the loss of your father, and I totally get where you're coming from with wanting to finish a project as a sort of tribute to that person. It's part of the reason I won't part with my sedan. I always used to tell her how much I loved the car anytime she said "why don't you get something else?" .. I always told her the sedan is all I wanted. "As long as you're happy with it..." were her words every time.

Anyways, on to the updates! I spent about an entire week working on the car, with a couple days off because it was too hot, and ya know.. fireworks. First step was removing the dash and both kick panels. Man, I had no idea there were so many parts there! Got every bolt that was important bagged and marked, because I knew due to this being my first 'dig in' project, I'd get sidetracked and forget what went where. Removed the old harness, and spent about two hours tracing and figuring the system out in my head, then started to cut and splice. Each splice was tested with my trusty Fluke digital multimeter, so I didn't get any surprises down the line.

Got the new harness slid into the stock location and pinned into place, routed all the cables into the factory cable channels,

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and then got the driver's door removed and put the new one in it's place.

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Hooked the battery back up for a test run, and found the motor to be in good enough condition. I know, I know, the door has a big dent in it, but I'll take dents over rust any day. Gonna get a friend over with a tool to pop that out, and hopefully that plus aligning the door properly will stop it rubbing on the fender when it opens and closes. Not so sure if I like the sport mirrors as much as the old chrome ones.. I'll have to track down a good set and try both out before I make any final decisions there.

After that I got the kick panel insulation, e-brake, and kick panel back into place.

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That was a little worrysome, as I couldn't quite route the cables as cleanly as the factory could've, but everything hooked up fine, and once everything is back together you'd never know it wasn't factory. Until you look at the doors themselves, that is.

Today I got the front passenger door removed, and put the 'new' one in it's place, and that's about all I got done today.

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Here in the next couple days I should have all four doors wired up and installed, and the dashboard and interior put back together. Following that? Align the doors, and then modify my original door panels to accept the switches for the locks and windows.

That's it for this update. Stay tuned for a word from our sponsors....What? ...We don't have any? Oh, ok... stay tuned for more updates!
 
Awesome story! Missed your first post but just read through it all. Sorry about your Mom of course but really happy for you and your enthusiasm for this car.
Keep up the good work and updates, I'll be following along....
Cheers!
 
Minor update

Wow, has it seriously been three weeks? Man how time flies..

Not much has gotten done, what with the heat wave and random rain storms, but progress is continuing, albeit slowly.

All four doors are now installed, and the wiring for the power windows is completely finished, with both front windows functional as well as both power vents.

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I was getting ready to put the dash back in when that need to 'do more' bit me, and against my better judgement (budget wise) I ordered three sets of KnuKonceptz Krystal Kable in 20 foot size and 50 feet of their 'Kord' speaker wire in the 12 gauge variety, since I had the dash out and had the ability to run wires behind it, instead of under it as is pretty common. Not the tip top of audio cables, but definitely better than the crap you get in those cheap amplifier wiring kits.

I already knew that I'd be running the power down the passenger side of the car, and signal/speaker cables down the driver's side to prevent noise being injected into the signal wires. Time will tell if the RCAs are good enough quality to prevent noise being injected into them from the power window wiring.

I managed to get two of the three RCA's and both runs of speaker wire in the factory cable channels on the driver's side. The third RCA cable is running right beside the channel underneath the carpet.

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and a picture after getting the insulation, kick panel, and e-brake back into place

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From there they route around the factory cable channel along the top of the dash, the RCA's exiting near where the vent box (or whatever the proper name for that doo hickey is), and the speaker wires head into each front door respectively.

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Now, I know, the car needs many other things besides audio stuff at this point in time, but I the way I saw it, I had a great opportunity to run wires in factory locations, so I took it. Having the option to run 3 amplifiers was something I had always planned to do, so now the car is ready (signal wise) for that.

Other than that, I've got the front door panels removed, and am currently trying to figure out how I'm going to modify the upper panels for switches without making it look too obvious that it's not a factory power window vehicle. I might need to track down upper door panels to get the right 'look,' but I have to operate on a budget, so if I can't find any, I'll just modify the current ones until I can find some replacements.

Let me know what you guys think so far, I always look forward to hearing other's opinions.

Any ideas/advice on how to modify the original panels would be greatly appreciated!
 
Aggravation!

So I went to start swapping over door panels today, got into the garage and started to lift the door up and bring it out into the yard to work on removing the panels. My finger slipped into something quite oily, and suddenly that smell... :puke: A cat has scent marked both my rear door panels, and then, as I was working on that, I had the car doors open, as I usually do when working on it. I look over and see the same ****ing cat walking away, come to find out, the little **** pissed on the Cutlass door panel WHILE IT WAS ON THE CAR.

Words can not express how entirely pissed (Ha!) I am, because, having had cats most of my life, I know that once that smell permeates a plastic, it's never going away, not without some serious work. Anybody got some burgandy sedan door panels I can buy?

Guess it's time to go break out the vinegar... That's all guys.
 
I've HEARD somewhere (don't know where, or the reliability) that baking soda can help quite a bit? You may have already tried that sometime in the past, though.
 
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