re-gluing in quarter windows

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pontiacgp said:
I forgot it was a wagon... 😳
Wow didnt read that wagon part! GO FOR THE URETHANE!!!!! :rofl:
 
Blake442 said:
Jack,
Do not use butyl-tape on the 1/4 windows on your wagon.
Butyl is what is intended for bolt-in glass like the 1/4 windows on coupes.
The 1/4 windows on wagons need to be glued in with urethane, like a windshield.
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Thanks Blake,
But will the urethane caulk be enough? The old seal was probably a 1/4" thick or so. So I'd just lay in a good bead of urethane and center it and be done? And again, would I still be able to achieve the proper thickness with caulking alone?
Sorry for the hundred questions, but I want to do it right.
 
You got it. Just lay a good probably 1/2" bead around the edge of the window and pop it in.
Did the original plastic risers survive? They're the two small clip-in pieces that set the height of the glass.
If you're worried about the thickness, just have your aluminum moldings ready to go back on when you put in the window.
That way if you need to push it in a little more to get the moldings to seat correctly you can.

Do you have some replacement plastic sleeves that slip into the moldings? They're usually tattered or gone all together.
SafariWagon told me he found that the inserts from B-body windshield moldings are pretty close.
 
Blake442 said:
You got it. Just lay a good probably 1/2" bead around the edge of the window and pop it in.
Did the original plastic risers survive? They're the two small clip-in pieces that set the height of the glass.
If you're worried about the thickness, just have your aluminum moldings ready to go back on when you put in the window.
That way if you need to push it in a little more to get the moldings to seat correctly you can.

Do you have some replacement plastic sleeves that slip into the moldings? They're usually tattered or gone all together.
SafariWagon told me he found that the inserts from B-body windshield moldings are pretty close.
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Blake,
The two glass riser clips have survived and I'll be reusing them. I will more than likely have to buy more plastic trim clips, but that's a given.
I'd also like to paint around the body opening before laying the glass back in there while it's accessible.

I'm glad you mentioned about the trim sleeves. I've been in a dilemma as what to do with them. Mine are obviously shot from the sun. My aluminum moldings are in good shape, just need to be repainted (in satin black).

So I assume that's what Lynsey used for his. Cool! I did look at the windshield trim on my car and noticed that the plastic strips are very similar to the side trim pieces, but not quite as wide. They all fit in a similar fashion..they slide in the groove.
Thanks for all your suggestions. I appreciate it.
 
Jack...my apologies on making the wrong suggestion...and thanks to Blake for catching it. I don't know how I forgot you have a wagon, old age I guess...
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pontiacgp said:
Jack...my apologies on making the wrong suggestion...and thanks to Blake for catching it. I don't know how I forgot you have a wagon, old age I guess...
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Steve,
That's quite alright. We're all human...I think... :lol: Tell me about the old age thing :roll: . Sometimes I say to myself , I'm getting too old for this stuff. But after years of wrenching, etc., it's in my blood. I'm not quite ready to stop... slow down perhaps. Sometimes I wish I were 30 yrs younger with alot more energy and enthusiasm.
 
Blake442 said:
Jack,
Do not use butyl-tape on the 1/4 windows on your wagon.
Butyl is what is intended for bolt-in glass like the 1/4 windows on coupes.
The 1/4 windows on wagons need to be glued in with urethane, like a windshield.
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I know that in older cars they used butyl for all the windows including the windshield so I looked it up..some shops still use butyl on older cars where the window is part of the structural makeup of the car. One of the reason why they use the butyl is that windows can pop loose with urethane due to the movement of the body of the car and some shops won't do older cars since insurance companys won't allow the use of butyl and they say urethane is not the right product to do the job
 
I prefer to use whatever method was used on the assembly line.

I put a windshield in a '67 442 convertible a couple years ago with butyl tape, just like when it was new.

The factory used urethane for all the stationary glass on G-bodies, so that's what I go with too.
 
Hi Jack, I just notice this topic. How in the world did you get the glass out? I tried saving the side glass from my Malibu wagon and they broke into a gazillion pieces as soon as I touched them.
 
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