swapping engine in 81 calais

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Bulkhead connector at the firewall. Check the older Cutlasses too. Almost all the Gbodys could have been had with a SBC at some point. I'll actually be going the other direction at some point so when I go to the wrecking yard I keep an eye out for parts to put an Olds in my '79 Cutlass that was built with a 305. The cool thing about Gbodys is that there were enough different options across the platform's production run that you can put almost anything in anything with the right combination of factory parts.
 
If it were me I would probably move the battery and install new cables and just extend the wires for the starter and adapt the alternator wiring to work then if you decide at later date that you want to pursue replacing the harness you can take your time searching for a good one.
I also think extending the wires might work out better since you have headers the wiring can be ran behind the engine and not have to cross over the exhaust.
 
If it were me I would probably move the battery and install new cables and just extend the wires for the starter and adapt the alternator wiring to work then if you decide at later date that you want to pursue replacing the harness you can take your time searching for a good one.
I also think extending the wires might work out better since you have headers the wiring can be ran behind the engine and not have to cross over the exhaust.

sounds like a solid plan. it's no where near ready to drive but i really want to hear this thing run. engine was rebuilt, i dunno.... 10 years ago and i have yet to try and start it! still a bunch of lil things to do like figure out a way to attach tv cable from trans. the intake has multiple openings that need plugged. fuel tank needs drained or removed and lines cleared. trans lines attached and cooler plumbed, and on and on.....

none of it is hard, but when i have the free time i would rather jump on bike and go ride. but if i could just hear it run... that would light a fire!

thanks for the replies.... it helps.
 
Why don't you just go down to the hot rod shop and get a carter afb fuel pump , and old carb or a 650 dp and push it manual choke on points. The 88 Silverado 350 is a torque monster but it has less than 180 hp. Why waste time playing with obsolete technology like a tv cable? You have the 700r4 manual valve body? That motor doesn't even have vortec heads so you would not be losing much performance if you did push it mechanically. It would still smash a 305 / olds 307 at least. Either way welcome to the site and my car has been sitting about a 6piece too, I am in Indiana. Be weary trying to dress up a 350 from the 88 silverado. It likes to hang out in the low rpm range for towing and doesn't respond well to being pushed hard without doing the extra machine work & bore/stroke but it's not even worth going that far unless you are going to do the work yourself. I spent some time on one with a friend and we had trouble getting more than 200hp out of it, but they do last forever kept close to stock.
 
i knew the engine was not big on performance, but was mine new, then dad put a gazillion miles on it. it was sittin in barn so was free and i knew didn't have anything wrong with it other than wear. i was just looking to get a fresh engine in it to get running again. so that ol 350 would fit the bill. i thought the tv cable had to be hooked up or could damage the trans? i have no idea about the manual valve body.

i have been into motorcycles for a very long time, not so much into cars and am paying for it now as i start walking around the olds and want to get started but not knowing where i should begin. i was looking at it sunday contemplating battery cables and starter wires but my klr needed tires and chain n gear set changed, and had those parts on bench. so worked on bike instead.

at least i am thinking about it and trying to put a plan together. i have not done that for a few years.
 
It may not be but the one we worked on was manual valve body. You might have no choice but to just keep it tv cable then. 300,000 miles though? That engine is going to be so soggy you should do like 500 cfm and that's it and just take it easy with. Still beats a 305 or 307 any day I bet. *_^
 
yeah at least 300k! so are you saying that even after a complete .030 over and top to bottom rebuild it will still be weak? i kept stock compression and went with an rv cam and roller rockers. the carb is a holley single pump dual feed 600. nothing extreme. the trans came out of a 92 or 93 silverado 2wd sport.

it was rebuilt prolly 10 yrs ago and never started. wouldn't surprise me if rings wind up being stuck..
 
No man, I was saying if I was you I would just baby it back to life gently, with kid gloves on. You could build it if you want, your call but its probably not even worth going overboard when it would cost less to get 400hp out of something else on the side.
 
Honor your Dad by getting this car to run! You have a serpentine belt - make sure the correct, reverse-rotation water pump was installed. Since the AC is not hooked up, you can replace the AC compressor with an idler pulley for now - Motormite (Help! parts section) makes one for about 30 bucks. The brake booster looks odd in your photo - does your car have manual brakes, or did your Dad swap in a hydroboost from the donor truck?
Squirt some Marvel's Mystery oil in the cylinders, and rotate the motor (if you can) by hand with a bar. There are adapters that bolt on to the balancer in place of the lower pulley (use the same bolts) to give you a half-inch square hole for a large socket wrench or breaker bar. One thing to look out for - valve springs. If the motor has not yet been turned after ten years, take the valve covers off and mark the springs that are compressed (data for later). Sitting compressed for years, even un-run, might have given them a 'set'. You might consider replacing these now or in the future.
After 10 years, you might want to loosen the rockers, pull the lifters and redo the break-in lube on the lifter faces and cam lobes. I like moly-based lubes. If the engine was never run, the cam and lifters have never worn in against each other so as long as there is not corrosion in there, you should be OK. After filling the pan and replacing the oil filter, definitely pull the distributor and pre-lube the motor by spinning the oil pump with a priming tool chucked in a drill. Mark the intake where the distributor rotor is pointing so you get it back in the right place afterwards. You may have to nudge the oil pump drive slot a little to get the helical distributor gear to engage in the right spot.
Once the drill motor slows down, you should start to see oil coming out of the push rod ends under the rockers. Rotate the motor a few more times, and set the rocker pre-load now that the lifters have been pumped up. Start with the engine at #1 cylinder (driver, front) top dead center - the intake and exhaust valves both shut while turning the crank. Spin the pushrods while tightening the rocker until they won't turn, then go an additional 1/2 to 3/4 of a turn. Go through two full rotations of the crankshaft, 1-8-4-7-2-6-5. You might also want to replace the coolant. If it's a rebuilt motor, you should be able to pull the water jacket drain plug, one on each side of the block, just above the oil pan. With luck, no liquid rust dumps out. If you replace the fuel pump, also put some moly on the fuel pump pushrod.
Good luck. It will probably work out just fine if timing and fuel are correct.
 
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No man, I was saying if I was you I would just baby it back to life gently, with kid gloves on. You could build it if you want, your call but its probably not even worth going overboard when it would cost less to get 400hp out of something else on the side.

ah, ok... guess i misunderstood. but yeah i knew there were way better options for engines that would make better hp.

Honor your Dad by getting this car to run! You have a serpentine belt - make sure the correct, reverse-rotation water pump was installed. Since the AC is not hooked up, you can replace the AC compressor with an idler pulley for now - Motormite (Help! parts section) makes one for about 30 bucks. The brake booster looks odd in your photo - does your car have manual brakes, or did your Dad swap in a hydroboost from the donor truck?
Squirt some Marvel's Mystery oil in the cylinders, and rotate the motor (if you can) by hand with a bar. There are adapters that bolt on to the balancer in place of the lower pulley (use the same bolts) to give you a half-inch square hole for a large socket wrench or breaker bar. One thing to look out for - valve springs. If the motor has not yet been turned after ten years, take the valve covers off and mark the springs that are compressed (data for later). Sitting compressed for years, even un-run, might have given them a 'set'. You might consider replacing these now or in the future.
After 10 years, you might want to loosen the rockers, pull the lifters and redo the break-in lube on the lifter faces and cam lobes. I like moly-based lubes. If the engine was never run, the cam and lifters have never worn in against each other so as long as there is not corrosion in there, you should be OK. After filling the pan and replacing the oil filter, definitely pull the distributor and pre-lube the motor by spinning the oil pump with a priming tool chucked in a drill. Mark the intake where the distributor rotor is pointing so you get it back in the right place afterwards. You may have to nudge the oil pump drive slot a little to get the helical distributor gear to engage in the right spot.
Once the drill motor slows down, you should start to see oil coming out of the push rod ends under the rockers. Rotate the motor a few more times, and set the rocker pre-load now that the lifters have been pumped up. Start with the engine at #1 cylinder (driver, front) top dead center - the intake and exhaust valves both shut while turning the crank. Spin the pushrods while tightening the rocker until they won't turn, then go an additional 1/2 to 3/4 of a turn. Go through two full rotations of the crankshaft, 1-8-4-7-2-6-5. You might also want to replace the coolant. If it's a rebuilt motor, you should be able to pull the water jacket drain plug, one on each side of the block, just above the oil pan. With luck, no liquid rust dumps out. If you replace the fuel pump, also put some moly on the fuel pump pushrod.
Good luck. It will probably work out just fine if timing and fuel are correct.

lotsa good info there... thanks! as for the booster, i had a built olds 350 rocket motor installed for many years. but with the cam it had.... i only had maybe one good pump with brakes and then had no power brakes. i tried electric vacuum pump and seperate vacuum tank and that helped a bunch but when stuck in traffic would eventually lose power brakes. so removed all that and went manual. i will be going back to power brakes with this engine, it's just another thing on that long list of to do's. and i had forgot about that till you mentioned it. lol...

that serpentine set up is what came with the 92 sport that i got trans from. i snagged what i thought i could use. the water pump i got from local parts store and is for the 88 engine (also serpentine), so i assume runs correct direction.

i have not rotated engine since installing distributer (years ago). my neighbor has also been on me about squirting something into cylinders and rotating engine. he recommended atf. i am gonna get out there this weekend and do this.

thanks for the replies...
 
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