TH200-4r or TH700-r4...interesting read

[megaladon6]

couple of points on the so called issues with the 200-4r
stupid mechanics never bothered to look at the instructions for adjusting the TV cable, they ASSumed it was just a kickdown like the th350--oops!
GM built a lot with fewer clutches and they were tuned for a comfortable shift. which means they slipped alot. they went in caddy's for the most part. thus your pile.
700's tended to break hard parts, 200's just burnt out (mostly)
do you know how many changes GM did to the 700 by 91? the trans changed at least once a year! and notice, your cop version had more clutches
GM put them into the GN and GNX, need i say more?

 

[Phoenyx]

As far as I have been able to find out. Both trannys is stock form are weak and won't handle much power. And both can be built up to handle whatever you want to put in front of it.

 

[bill]

As far as I have been able to find out. Both trannys is stock form are weak and won't handle much power. And both can be built up to handle whatever you want to put in front of it.

Maybe so....but the truth is, if gas was 50 cents a gallon, Id be using a th350 instead of either one....but it aint
Of course....if wishes were horses...then dreamers would ride... :lol:

 

[dogsht]

When both property built the 200-4r is head & shoulders better. Extreme automatic's website nails it puts it in writing & backs it with a warranty. Their 200-4r held my 570 foot pound torque 509ci caddy motor that tore up drag radials & ran 1.8 sixty foots.

On another note for a hot street car getting 33% better gas mileage is only one of the benefits of an overdrive transmission. Saving horsepower and being lighter and more efficient also allows your engine to turn & accelerate it quicker. The overdrive trans in a hot street strip car is one of if not the single best upgrades you can make at least if tied to a rear end gear change. Having a high stall converter that locks up so your car drives and accelerates like a normal car except under hard acceleration is great. Ever try & drive a big cam car with the needed high stall in traffic or cruise down the interstate? Keeping extreme heat out of your transmission & cooling system can also be a miracle worker. Fighting overheating issues can suck & be costly, as can rebuilding a transmission because a stall converter & no lock up burnt it up long before it should have worn out. How about rebuilding your motor or valvetrain early because an extra couple thousand rpm down the highway wore it out assuming again this is a real street car you build to enjoy by driving places instead of trailing it and looking at it in your garage. Unless you can't afford the upgrade, its simply not worth the time work & expense for how you use the car or you are keeping it for concors restoration purposes three speeds should be left to race cars or in the 70s.

 

[tc1959]

I think that some people just get in a mind set that one thing is better than the other and thats the only way. Both these transmission's are good when used for the right application. This seems to be the trend with almost everything car related. just
my two cents

Well said I agree.

 

[G-Body_Vet]

Their 200-4r held my 570 foot pound torque 509ci caddy motor that tore up drag radials & ran 1.8 sixty foots.

Which one did you go with, the level 2 I'm assuming? I've also been looking at:
http://www.bowtieoverdrives.com/catalog ... ?ITEMID=13

I've also heard these guys build a good trans too although the price is a little higher
http://www.ckperformance.com/resources/ ... SIONS.html

 

[dogsht]

It would be the level two today. One would work but you need the billet foward drum/shaft for more than 500 foot pounds of torque which is the main price jump from level 1 to level 2. CK is also excellent. Not a fan of bowtie for building the 200-4r but they seem fine for anything else and have an informative website.

 

[blackplague]

I like the 200r4 BRF valve bodies ... Bruce @ pts xtreme is 1 of the best with 200's. I have a fully billet 200 built by him make sure you get his deep sump pan too. Ive seen a regal run 9's 1/4 and drive back home with his 200. I like the gear ratio in the lil 200's myself .... they dont have alot fo clutch material so if you run them hard you prolly need to reclutch them every season. I had a backyard built 200 last 3yrs with 2 shoes boxes full of slips it ran mid 11 to high 10's at the end when it broke. only other problem is good a converter will cost you alot

 

[dogsht]

PTS is outstanding, just expensive.