Thinking About Building a Custom Dash

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I may or may not try this, but I am thinking about building a custom dash for my car that would have a factory kind of look and finish, not just a simple piece of sheetmetal like a race car. Here's what I have come up with so far. I would use the original steel framework from a factory dash and mold a piece of fiberglass to bolt to it. That way I could use most of the original mounting points. My basic premise would be to add functionality to the car while also correcting it's ergonomic sins and placing the controls within easier reach than what GM did back in 1978 when these cars were first designed. I would shape a mold plug out of some stiff foam from which I would cast a mold. This mold would then be used to make the actual fiberglass base that would form the structure of the dash.

I have been analyzing several newer cars that put things within easier reach and comparing them to the original dash. I have come to a few conclusions dealing with why they are so much easier to operate but yet look good and do not detract from the feeling of space in the car. First off, they all have dash assemblies that are on average much closer to the occupants than a G body dash is. The dash covers more of the foot well area and generally have less of the steering column exposed than a typical G body by 4-6 inches. This moves all of the controls closer and in easier reach. Many of these cars also place the radio and A/C controls higher in the dash by 6 inches. This means they come closer to the driver's range of motion in the seated position with his back against the seat back.

In order for it to look right, I feel I would need to use factory bezels to trim out the different elements of the dash as well as a gauge cluster bezel and lens. There would also have to be a variety of textures and materials. I was thinking about possibly making some of these elements out of carbon fiber or real wood, with Zebrano or Burl Walnut being the obvious choices when it comes to wood. I would also need some factory air vents from another car, but would keep the G body HVAC controls and headlight switch to simplify the wiring. The defroster vents would be in the original position and hook up with the factory vents under the dash. I would also try to incorporate a GPS screen, a USB outlet for jump drives or iPod connectivity and a 110 volt outlet run off a power inverter. I may even run 2 or 3 "lighter" plugs to further aid in running other devices. I also want cup holders with adjustable size to be able to hold my various different beverage choices. Some of my other ideas include: Refrigerated cup holders that are also switchable to heated cup holders for different drinks, a refrigerated center console, rear facing HVAC vents in the back of the console, pockets for things like iPods and cell phones, Bluetooth connectivity, center channel speaker, tweeter mounts instead of the 3.5 in speakers in the original, a larger glove compartment, or a possible refrigerated compartment next to the glove box for drinks (2-4 20 oz bottles). Some of these ideas seem redundant because they are all just possible places to put things and of course would not all co-exist.

I am wide open on the actual design so far as I have not even started sketching it yet. I just wanted to post up some of my thoughts for discussion and a little brainstorming. I am still trying to figure out how to cover it with foam and then upholster it with vinyl.
 
i didn't read it all. but it sounds like a very cool idea.....you have alot of time on your hands don't you
 
78mali350 said:
i didn't read it all. but it sounds like a very cool idea.....you have alot of time on your hands don't you

Not as much as you might think, but I do have really bad insomnia, chronic fatigue and I drive 30-50 hours a week. I deliver pizza for a living and go to college part time. I am only taking one class, but it is a difficult one (Pre-Calculus Algebra and Trigonometry). At 5 credit hours it's all I can reasonably do with all of the homework ( 100 problems do tomorrow). I'm also an Engineering student, so I think about this stuff a lot!
 
man i want to build a custom dash too...but I couldnt even figure out how to take the stock one out. I tore everything off it but it seemed pop riveted to the car or something at the bottom. that would be alot of fiber glass too. I wonder if you could possibly use fiberglass to coat or add a layer to the stock dash. my main concern is it not bolting up right or fitting properly, that would drive me crazy.
 
85 Cutlass Brougham said:
I am only taking one class, but it is a difficult one (Pre-Calculus Algebra and Trigonometry).

:rofl: LAWLZ!!! Wait until you get to Calc 3, DiffyQ's Pwns JoO!11!!!!
 
To take it out: take out the speaker grilles and the bolts below them, and the exposed ones at the top of the dash. There are also bolts at the far corners that bolt the metal framework to the car with 13mm nuts or bolts. The column bracket must also be disconnected, and I think there is also one bolt under the radio that is accessible from under the dash. It's 13mm and shiny zinc coated like the other 2 13mm bolts. Apart from that, the HVAC controls must be unbolted and slipped through the radio opening. The Wiring harness is bolted to the back of the dash and must be disconnected, and the main bulkhead connector is part of this harness (behind the fuse box). You must decide if you wish to remove the whole harness or take alternate action. Removing the whole harness also means disconnecting the main bulkhead connector under the hood. If you go this route, get some strip caulk to real it back to the car on reassembly. If you don't you will have a water leak and some stinky mold followed by a rusted out floor. Then there is the serial bus on the driver's side which has a few things plugged in to it. Simple! I can strip one in a junkyard car in about 15 min. Doing it nicely in a car that I want to see run again takes less than an hour-but I have done it a few times too.
 
I am also thinking of doing the same i my car. I am getting a dash from a friend that came out of a 94 S-10 that i may try to fit in my monte to give it a more up to date look with out going to crazy and its free so its right within my budget.
 
As of now, im working on two dash projects. The first is the one i got from Klaus on these forums installing an 80's model BMW 5 series dash. He has in his el-camino and it looks amazing. If you go to his webpage, he has pictures of it on there. I have the dash, just am going to have to wait til summer when im out of school to start on it.

The second is i took out my dash and got had a vacuum mold made of it fully assembled. The guy makes the frames for dirt cars, as well as almost any fiberglass things you can think of. He made the mold for me and is gonna make a prototype model for me to try and fit in. We are also working on new door panels with a mix of carbon fiber and fiber glass as well
 
KMac said:
As of now, im working on two dash projects. The first is the one i got from Klaus on these forums installing an 80's model BMW 5 series dash. He has in his el-camino and it looks amazing. If you go to his webpage, he has pictures of it on there. I have the dash, just am going to have to wait til summer when im out of school to start on it.

The second is i took out my dash and got had a vacuum mold made of it fully assembled. The guy makes the frames for dirt cars, as well as almost any fiberglass things you can think of. He made the mold for me and is gonna make a prototype model for me to try and fit in. We are also working on new door panels with a mix of carbon fiber and fiber glass as well

any links to the pics of the beamer dash your talking about?

edit- i have no patience. did some searching.
i wonder what it took to make this work. do you know? its awesome!!!
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