were g bodys painted in laquer from the factory?

[joesregalproject]

what type of paint should i use to paint my car on a budget? i've decided to go with the original color, so i have to be able to get it in a metallic. i know a lot about rust and dent work, but i dont know s*** about paint. all i know is spray bomb sucks, epoxy primers good, enamel over laquer- OK, laquer over enamel- NOT OK. thats pretty much all i know- lol.

i figure
1. sand down spray bomb to old factory paint (dont want to go to bare metal, too much unnecessary work)
2. sealer primer- what kind???
3. base coat- again what kind???
4. clearcoat if necesssary, i know that not all paints need clear.

 

[pontiacgp]

this forum will answer any questions you have about paint. They have pro painters on there who pull any punches so don't ask about shortcuts, like I did.. 8)

http://www.autobody101.com/forums/index.php

 

[bill]

what type of paint should i use to paint my car on a budget? i've decided to go with the original color, so i have to be able to get it in a metallic. i know a lot about rust and dent work, but i dont know s*** about paint. all i know is spray bomb sucks, epoxy primers good, enamel over laquer- OK, laquer over enamel- NOT OK. thats pretty much all i know- lol.

i figure
1. sand down spray bomb to old factory paint (dont want to go to bare metal, too much unnecessary work)
2. sealer primer- what kind???
3. base coat- again what kind???
4. clearcoat if necesssary, i know that not all paints need clear.

From what I know, all base coats will require clear coat for protection. Enamels are single stage paints which are more work to get a great look. But, they dont use clear coats. Laquers are from the old school days and require much more work to prep for and to achieve a great shine on. This is all based on heresay from yrs gone by, so I may be wrong about this....others here may have better info.

 

[86 Grand prix]

Wow, where to start? Laquer is almost a thing of the past. Base/clear is the current thing going with water bourn coming shortly. If you paint with base you will need to clear coat that. Single stage urathane is almost as good. Not quiet as good of a gloss and depth but long lasting. Enamel is junk and will not last long at all. Long story short really good quality paint is high $$$$$ and you really need to make sure you get it right the first time or much of that money can be wasted.

 

[carmangary]

I'd sand down the old paint to nice solid paint instead of oxidized stuff then I'd seal it with an epoxy primer followed by a medium or high build primer surfacer depending on how much sanding it will need. Block that out until it's nice and flat and then shoot either SS or BC/CC urethane. Make sure you wear a respirator or organic vapor mask.

 

[iameggor]

If are going for the factory color you could probably get away with painting only the outside of the car, leaving the jambs the factory paint. Go with a urethane bc/cc if you want your paint to last a while and don't want it to oxidize, and have to polish it a lot. They make inexpensive clears that aren't too bad as far as quality, napa/martin senior clear is pretty inexpensive and is a pretty decent clear. I prefer PPG or BASF products myself.

 

[Ribbedroof]

How many times you want to do this?

IMO, if it's once, you NEED to go the extra mile and get the lacquer off the car. It WILL check somewhere down the road, and without a good foundation, you'll be redoing it. The upside is that once the old stuff is off the car, you will have a good substrate to use a modern finish on. I know none of the major paint manufacturers say it is acceptable to coat over old lacquer....in fact will not warrant the product when applied over it.

 

[CWPottenger]

I agree strip it to metal and build back from there. finished product will be nicer and last longer. Also lets you make sure no hidden issues with car.

 

[joesregalproject]

How many times you want to do this?

IMO, if it's once, you NEED to go the extra mile and get the lacquer off the car. It WILL check somewhere down the road, and without a good foundation, you'll be redoing it. The upside is that once the old stuff is off the car, you will have a good substrate to use a modern finish on. I know none of the major paint manufacturers say it is acceptable to coat over old lacquer....in fact will not warrant the product when applied over it.

id like to strip it to metal, but i dont have all the time, tools, and $$$ to do that.

 

[Clone TIE Pilot]

Stripping a car down to just the bare metal body off the frame is the best way to paint. However not everyone has the time, money, or even the indoor space for such a large job. What you could do is sand the old paint so that it has some bite. Then spray epoxy primer over it and then your basecoat. It won't be perfect but it will protect the car for a number of years. For a perfect job you will need a full strip down, frame off restore job, you just have to make do sometmes.