What's Wrong With America?

[srercrcr]

Gee, I didn't have any idea people thought America was that bad.
Personally I've never been better, at least on the personal level.
Opportunity is still there for all, if you don't go for it, somebody else will.

 

[Tony_SS]

First off, no one should ever condone violence whatsoever, on any level as a means to express contempt for their government.

Gee, I didn't have any idea people thought America was that bad.
Personally I've never been better, at least on the personal level.
Opportunity is still there for all, if you don't go for it, somebody else will.

I think we have a good country here. Personally I couldn't be happier, I have a great wife, son and baby on the way and I'm able to support my family doing what I love.

However, the changes that are happening are incremental, thus it can be virtually unnoticeable to someone who doesn't pay attention. The problem is, people go about their day, do their job, watch a little news at night and tune out.

Take for example the supposed suicide of DC Madam Palfrey. Right away this was reported by the media that she hung herself, left a note, end of case. Lets get real here, she was going to expose 10's of thousands on her 15 year long list of government Johns and she was murdered, along with one of her employees. Calls for an investigation are ignored.

That's only one instance in thousands... but it is indicative to the path that our current leadership has taken us down.

Our military industrial complex is monster of a machine. Lets face it, war is profit and dont think that thousands of arms released by the pentagon went missing in Iraq on accident. War is funded and instigated on both sides for many obvious reasons. The Pentagon generals report on Fox, and American listens, but rarely questions.

So what's wrong? Everyone, including the media lays blame on scapegoats instead who's really at fault. Like the Fed, who pumps up inflation, builds economic bubbles and devalues the dollar. Why are they doing this? Bailing out banks with bad loans? Is it just another setup for a historical power grab like that done in the past? If anyone is unfamiliar with the Federal Reserve and how it came to be, do some research because your taxes ultimately pay the interest on their loan to the government. You'll find out they are a privately owned entity of powerful elite that operate independently and answer to no one but themselves.

“Give me control over a nation's currency and I care not who makes its laws.” Baron M.A. Rothchild.

 

[srercrcr]

She made her bed, now she paid the price.
Play by the sword, die by the sword.

 

[Tony_SS]

She made her bed, now she paid the price.
Play by the sword, die by the sword.

That's a cop out. And its a mob mentality. Should the corrupt political Johns not die by the sword as well?

I find it funny how can we judge a Hugo Chavez and call him a corrupt dictator but its okay for a Congressmen, Judge, Mayor or Vice President (?) to setup a murder on hooker they used to save face.

 

[jatguit]

The current adminsitration is what is wrong with America.

Our current administration can be blamed almost completely without acting to change. They are pro free-trade and it has hurt us. Yes Clinton introduced it, and I wasn’t for it, but it has been let to continue without restrictions and further strengthened by this administration, with little intervention. He has had 8 years in office and a majority in the house and senate most of that time. He has screwed up big time, he makes Nixon look like a saint.

Also, Bush's WAR which is bleeding us dry. All fundings for the states have been getting shut off like a spicket slowly being turned off going to fund war efforts. For what? For a foiled plan to get control of more oil. Oil is and will kill us eventually if we don't make a turn. We can't live with it or without it -- without causing turmoil.

Domestic exploration will NOT alleviate our fuel situation as the US is an oil HOG, even by the time it could be extracted and processed it is too little too late, and eventually exhaustible. We need to be exploring sustainable sources more aggressively and you know this administration Is against that, no forward thinking there, they are just looking out for their own oil financial interests.
Conservation is also something that needs to be exercised and that includes smaller more fuel efficeint cars and new more sustainable technologies.

Even the middle east is looking for their next energy supply, in SOLAR, heck they are in a great place for it. They want to continue to be a great energy provider and they are FORWARD THINKING… kudos for them, maybe we could learn something. Nobody says it will be easy and happen overnight, but in time hopefully there will also be other technologies to come on line, but also consider where we could be if maybe WE HAD reacted more aggressively starting in the 70’s.
Maybe we can blame ALL the administrations (since the 70’s) for not making this more of a focus. President Carter was the only one that told us straight and people didn’t want to hear it! We just keep postponing the inevitable.

 

[Tony_SS]

what else...

Anyone remember the California electricity summer blackouts? Anyone believe what they reported? Shame on you..

Fact is:

The rolling blackouts in CA were an ENRON market manipulation exercise. Since the demise of ENRON and subsequent arrest and conviction of it's CEO Ken Lay the blackouts have ceased.

Contrived shortages increase profit margins; the supply and demand system has been perverted.

This same principal is used when Bush uses low supply as an excuse for high oil prices. Does anyone really believe that? This is right up there with Gore's global warming sermons.

Now do some research on Stan Meyer and his water fuel cell dune buggy that he created in the 70's. He wound up dead and his brother went into hiding.

Everyone wants to wave the flag and sing for he's a jolly good fellow. Fact is most people in positions of power are not jolly good fellows. Sorry to burst anyone red, white and blue bubble.

 

[85 Cutlass Brougham]

I do not advocate domestic production as the great panacea for our energy problem. I want to see it because it will provide a short term solution while we are actively pursuing alternative technologies. Failure to do either one of these will grind our economy to a halt, if not now then in the near future. I have posted numerous things on here on alternative fuels and energy resources because I have a genuine interest in what can be done. I am not a supporter of oil as a long term solution to the problems, but we need to have it until we can develop the technology and infrastructure for new technologies that would allow us to get off it. For example, if a 300mpg car was released for sale tomorrow, it would take many years for it to be in service for a majority of people. Most could not afford the switch, and production of enough vehicles to make an impact would take a few years at best. Now imagine what it would take for a new fuel source to become widely available to the majority of motorists as well if we had it available.

 

[Tony_SS]

More with 'Whats Wrong with America' (Aren't you glad you posted this thread 85?) :wink:

Here Ron Paul outlines and identifies 'Neoconservatism'

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4df1soW7 ... om/?p=2170

 

[Geesie]

Yes, it would be great if we could use domestic oil production to stop the pain while we come up with alternative energy sources.

It just won't happen. We had a big oil crisis in the early 70s, panicked, started thinking about conservation, and then it ended. When the one in the late 70s came, we panicked, started thinking about conservation, then it ended. If there isn't a crisis, we will believe that the good times will last forever despite contrary evidence. Opening the Gulf and ANWR to drilling will only delay the problem for 20 years at best. Then we'll be right back where we started, though likely even more dependent on oil and without emergency reserves.

 

[Coveted]

those were man made gas crunches, there was no real shortage.