1984 H/O ??FAKE?? sold at Mecum

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Something about being some Petty museum piece/GM prototype that Petty snuck back door out of GM? No VIN. Sat in a museum it's whole life.


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According to the sticker, it should be scrapped/crushed. Still if I paid 9k for that I'm gonna find a way to drive it.
 
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08Malibu

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But then there are deals

Something about being some Petty museum piece/GM prototype that Petty snuck back door out of GM? No VIN. Sat in a museum it's whole life.


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Unfortunately, you can’t do anything with that car. I remember when I was in “ Ohio Auto Diesel Technical College”. They had a bunch of cars that were just like that GP. A couple GN’s, a T type, Monte SS’s, Vettes, a Delorean, and a bunch of other cars with no VIN’s. They were all just to be used for educational purposes, then crushed.
 
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Ernest

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Mecum.... the craigslist of auctions, overpriced scams and deals to be had on a daily basis.
 
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I remember going to a local car show about 10 years ago where I saw a what looked like a 1979 Hurst/Olds for sale. I looked at it closely and it just didn't look right. There were a few things "off" about it. I know that over the years sometimes things get changed, replaced, or substituted for whatever reasons but the car just didn't seem right to me. I checked the VIN and realized this was a clone. The VIN started with 3K47F8... which showed that the car was originally a 1978 Cutlass Calais with a 260 V8. The owner approached me and asked me if I was interested. I told him it was a nice clone but no. He got mad at me and told me to f* off so I just walked away. Either he knew it was a clone or he believed that it was the real thing and didn't want to admit he'd been taken for a ride when he had purchased it. It was being offered as a 1979 Hurst.
 

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I see this all the time with 'Bandit' trans-ams. Once saw a 79-81 convertible with a 77-78 nose on it, being sold as a 77 factory original numbers matching "ultra mega rare blah blah blah." Firebirds didn't come in a convertible between 1970 and 1988. It looked well done, and would likely have been worth whatever the guy was asking, so why lie about it?
 

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Seen it a few times with the Monte Carlo SS cars, someone will take a LS coupe and slap a SS nose & spoiler on it, call it a "Real SS", yet it still has all the chrome time and parts that aren't supposed to be chrome.

The owner approached me and asked me if I was interested. I told him it was a nice clone but no. He got mad at me and told me to f* off so I just walked away. Either he knew it was a clone or he believed that it was the real thing and didn't want to admit he'd been taken for a ride when he had purchased it.
Pretty much the reaction I've gotten when you call people out on fake stuff. They know they have a fake car and don't want to admit it to either make the sale or make themselves feel better about being screwed over previously already.
 

81cutlass

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According to the sticker, it should be scrapped/crushed. Still if I paid 9k for that I'm gonna find a way to drive it.

According to the guy who bought it on the 2+2 owners FB page he is somewhere between collector and museum owner and talked about registering it as a home built street rod or something along those lines. He is in TX and it sounds like the rules are pretty lax.

Unfortunately, you can’t do anything with that car. I remember when I was in “ Ohio Auto Diesel Technical College”. They had a bunch of cars that were just like that GP. A couple GN’s, a T type, Monte SS’s, Vettes, a Delorean, and a bunch of other cars with no VIN’s. They were all just to be used for educational purposes, then crushed.

Even so, there is an easy $9k in parts there. Rusty or wrecked 2+2 shell and although some wouldn't consider it 100% above boards, but where there's a will, there's a way.
 
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I can only speculate but I'd bet that car probably is a real H/O, but it was probably half parted out or in a junkyard and someone did a very half-assed job putting it back together.
 
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Unfortunately, you can’t do anything with that car. I remember when I was in “ Ohio Auto Diesel Technical College”. They had a bunch of cars that were just like that GP. A couple GN’s, a T type, Monte SS’s, Vettes, a Delorean, and a bunch of other cars with no VIN’s. They were all just to be used for educational purposes, then crushed.

It can't be that hard to find a car that's about to be scrapped and use that vin on the car with no vin.
 
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But then there are deals

Something about being some Petty museum piece/GM prototype that Petty snuck back door out of GM? No VIN. Sat in a museum it's whole life.


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This price also surprised me. I know it can't be legally registered/driven, although I do wonder depending on the state if you can get around it somehow, like you said for an almost brand new car there are a ton of parts worth good money. I remember when it sold around 10 years ago from GM after their bankruptcy, forget what the price was but it probably wasn't much less. There was also a 1984 MCSS with 5k miles that sold for 29k, which seems on the cheap end now of where prices are at.
 
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